Margaret Fleming/James Ferguson

[oldbear]

Trying to trace information on my G-G-G grandparents, hope someone can help me! Margaret Fleming was born around 1830 in Campbelltown, her parents were Alexander Fleming and Catherine Smith. Margaret married James Ferguson (who was from County Antrim) in Glasgow around 1849 according to my G-G grandmother Catherine's birth certificate. She was Margaret and James' third child. I can't find any record of the 1849 marriage and would appreciate any help.

[runningbear]

here's a wee starter

1861 census; 23 broughton street, edinburgh st mary

james...head...age 30...shoe maker...born ireland
margaret...wife...age 30...born campbelltown
henry...son...age 9...born glasgow
elizabeth...dau...age 7...born edinburgh
catherine...dau...age 5...born edinburgh
james...son...age 3...born ireland
mary...dau...age 10 months...born edinburgh.


do you have margaret fleming/ferguson's death cert? trying to figure out where alexander and catherine come in, as i cannot find them on earlier censuses.

Joe

[runningbear]

new search, found this

alexander married catherine 12th feb 1826, campbeltown

children from this marriage

margaret...born 26/11/1826
flora...born 8/10/1829
william...born 9/10/1831
elizabeth...born 15/1/1836
mary...born 1838

1841 census; kirk street, campbeltown

catherine...age 30...farm house servant
margaret...age 14
flora...age 10
william...age 8
elizabeth...age 6
mary...age 3

no sign of alexander on the 1841 census.

by 1851 census the whole family is spilt, think that catherine is either remarried or dead, cannot find anything else until the 1861 census.

i found a william living in greenock matching the william born in campbelltown.

Joe

[oldbear]

Fantastic!! Thanks Joe, your info is much appreciated. Here's what I have;

Margaret Ferguson/Fleming died August 24th 1863 in the Royal Infirmary Edinburgh,usual residence 23 Broughton St Edinburgh. She was 33 years old. Her father was Alexander Fleming, mother Catherine Fleming MS Smith. Her husband James Ferguson was the informant.

Catherine Ferguson was born on the 19th May 1855 at 23 St James Street Edinburgh, third child of James and Margaret. They were married in 1849 in Glasgow according to Catherines birth certificate but I've never managed to track this down. Margaret Flemings place of birth is Campbelltown. Catherine Ferguson (my GG Grandmother) returned to Glasgow from Edinburgh to have several of her children which intrigued me, was there family there who looked after her at this time perhaps, since her own mother was dead? Catherine had my (illegitimate) GGrandfather in Glasgow then married a James Coutts and had several more children. Still a few mysteries to solve!

[MonicaL]

Hi Oldbear

The marriage doesn't show on IGI but does on Scotlands People, one of these things that sometimes happens. Always worthwhile starting out with the IGI given it's free to search, if nothing shows there, as you can see in this case, it's good to also check on SP. Images of the OPRs have recently become available to view on line, however, from that 1855 birth (and Joe's census info  for Catherine you have lots of info already on the family. OPRs can sometime include additional info, most often however they have no more than shows on the index.

From SP, these are the refs.:

06/07/1850   FERGUSON JAMES   and MARY FLEMING @ Blantyre/LANARK   624/ 0040 0185

Added: Oooops, back to scratch, just realised it shows a Mary not a Margaret....

Regards.

Monica

[runningbear]

it would be nice to find your margaret in the 1851 census, i am really struggling, hoping some kind soul could help

Joe

[MonicaL]

Trying to Joe  ...having the same problems.

Monica 

[oldbear]

Hope all you folk can shed some light on James and Margarets marriage, as James came from Ireland I'm counting on the marriage info or James death certificate to get his parents names. How can I trace his Irish ancestry? As I understand it there's no online resource like Scotland's People for Irish genealogy? I've had a look for his death certificate online but it was going to be too expensive (there are a lot of James Fergusons around!) so I'll need to wait till next time I can get over to Edinburgh to Register House.

Ruth

[MonicaL]

Hi Ruth

A chink of hope here....James would have been a relatively young widower following Margaret's death in 1863. Highly likely he remarried, specially with a young family.

I have found this entry on the 1881 Census:

James Ferguson, head, 46, ladies bootmaker, b. Ireland
Jane, wife, 42, b. Glasgow
Mary Rogan, daughter, married, 21, b. Edinburgh
Michael Rogan, son in law, 21, Stoker & Engine Keeper, b. Glasgow
Michael J Rogan, nephew (?), 10 months, b. Glasgow

Address: 13 Old Assembly Close, Edinburgh New North, Edinburgh


Could well be your James. If so, his second marriage cert. would confirm his parents 

Regards.

Monica