smallman in Hereford

[shropshire lad]

Hello
Can anyone help please.
Trying to find the parents of a James Smallman b <1847> Upton Bishop, married to Ann in the 1881 census. He is a blacksmith in 1876 (Littleburys Gazetteer)
Also found in a Hereford Gazetteer William Smallman also blacksmith in 1876 at Crow Hill, Upton Bishop & a John Smallman boot and shoemaker, Crow Hill could these all be brothers or parents?

Many Thanks
Mike

[Tati]

Hi Mike,

Welcome to Rootschat 

1861
RG9/1812 79 23
Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Crow Hill
William Smallman, head, 48, Cordwinder, b. Upton bishop
Elizabeth, wife, 48, Boot binder, b. Gloucestershire Mitcheldean
Mariann, dau, 20, House Servant, b. Upton Bishop
James, son, 15, Cordwinder, b. do.
Edwin A, son, 6, scholar, b. do.
Martha U, dau, 3, b. do.
George, grandson, 1, b. Glostershire Abinhall

Tanja 

[Tati]

1871
RG10/2685 78 22
Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Blacksmith Shop Crowhill
William Smallman, head, 36, Blacksmith Master, b. Gloucester Dean Forest
Matilda, wife, 35, b. Worcester St Johns
James, brother, unm, 25, Journeyman Blacksmith, b. Hereford Upton Bishop
Samuel Wilks, serv, 18, Apprentice Blacksmith, b. Hereford Weston under (something)

[Tati]

Back in 1851, William senior's wife is Charlotte:
HO107/1976 82 8
Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Crowhill Village
William Smallman, head, 38, Cordwinder, b. Upton Bishop
Charlotte, wife, 32?, b. Mitchel Dean Gloster
Eliza, dau, 14, b. Servent? Glostershire
John, son, 12, scholar, b. East Dean Glostershire
Maryanna?, dau, 10?, scholar, b. Upton Bishop
Lydia, dau, 7, scholar, b. do.
James, son, 5, b. do.
Catherine, dau, 1, b. do.

[GeoffP]

Hi,
1851 HO107/1976 F82 p8

Crowhill  Upton Bishop

William Smallman Head M 38  Cordwainer   b Upton Bishop
Charlotte   "         Wife  M 39                       b Mitchel Deare Glos
Marge Anna "        dau      16                       b ?    Glos
Eliza             "        dau       14                     b East Dean   Glos
John             "         son       12                    b Upton Bishop
Lydia           "          dau       7                              "
James         "            son      5                             "
Catherine    "           dau       1                            "

                                         Regards
                                                       Geoff

[GeoffP]

Not sure about the ages I took what had been transcribed but Tati could well be correct.

                                 Geoff

[Tati]

Hi Geoff    

Looks like Charlotte was in fact Elizabeth     In which case 39 in 1851 would be correct for her  (Wasn't too sure when I looked at the image anyway) 

1841
HO107/421/21 4 3
Upton Bishop
John Smalman, 70, Shoe Maker, not born in county
Mary, 60, not born in county
/
William, 25, Shoe Maker
Elizabeth, 25, not born in county
William, 6
Eliza, 4
John, 2
Mary Ann, 4 months

[GeoffP]

Hi Mike and hello Tati,

There is a birth of Mary Ann Smallman      Ross 26  14  March 1841

So she would have been 10 in 1851.
                                                            Regards
                                                                          Geoff

[shropshire lad]

Hello Tati & Geoffp

Great info, will now study this.

Many Thanks to Both.

Mike