1841 census lookup _ Roberts

[Jono]

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I am looking for Eleanor Roberts b c 1825 in Monmouthshire

In 1849 she married John Purmel from Berkeley in either Gloucester or Dursley districts (some confusion of the records I'm afraid)

Her family may have been in Gloucestershire by 41 as she was married in the county

I have her husband inthe 51 census living in Chepstow but not with Eleanor. Maybe she used her maiden name in the 51 census. In October 1852 they were at 36 Long Street, Gloucester.

thanks

Jono

[Arranroots]

Hi Jono

Do you have information about her family - father's name and occupation from the marriage cert maybe?

There is an Eleanor of the right age in Frampton on Severn (not far from where yours should be), but it says born in county.  What other censuses do you have her on?

kind regards, Arranroots 

[Arranroots]

p.s. is the John you haved found the one in Horse Lane, Chepstow in 1851?  He is a joiner and it says unmarried.

 

[Arranroots]

I can find a marriage for Eleanor ROBERTS in Gloucester in 1849, but there is no corresponding entry for her "husband". Edit: John Gizzard (?) PURNELL might be on the same page - I see what you mean about confusion!

This seems to be them in 1861, which means the 1851 John could be right.

RG9 Piece 1766 Folio 46 Page 50

John PURNELL H M 35 - carpenter & Joiner - Glos Berkeley
Eleaner W M 40 - Monmouth Risca
Charles H son 8 - scholar - Glos Gloster

Address: Blackfriars Square, Gloucester St Mary de Crypt

[Arranroots]

Outside chance for Eleanor in 1851 - the surnames on the page are virtually illegible, due to handwriting.  It would not be unusual for a servant to be given as unmarried when she was.

1851 census  HO107/1955/63/35

Eleanor POWELE serv U 28 - house servant - Monmouthshire

In household of Major William (illegible) in Westbury on Trym


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[Arranroots]

This might be better

1851 census  HO107/2466/457/13

Ellen PURNELL Wife Mar 30 - dress maker - Newport Mon

Address: Powell St, Swansea, Glamorgan

She is alone in her household, but since the enumerator doesn't use house numbers it is difficult to say whether she is in a shared household.

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[Jono]

Thanks everyone

The problem is with the marriage as we know that John purnell married an Eleanor.

The Free BMd search shows the problem


Marriages September 1849
Boughton  James    Glo'ster  11 393   
Broughton  James     Gloster  11 393   
Chalender  Mary     Glo'ster  11 393   
Helps  Mary Lewis     Gloster  11 393   
Hooper  Richard     Gloster  11 393   
King  Rosetta     Gloster  11 393   
Price  Mary     Gloster  11 393   
Roberts  Eleanor     Gloucester  11 393   
Rowton  Rupert James     Glo'ster  11 393   



Marriages Sep 1849   (>99%)
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Godwin  Edward    Dursley  11 383   
King  Eleanor     Dursley  11 383   
Malpass  Sarah     Dursley  11 383   
Marston  Charles Henry     Dursley  11 383   
Neale  James     Dursley  11 383   
Purnell  John Gizzard     Glo'ster  11 383   
Saunders  Jane     Dursley  11 383   
Tennant  Richard     Dursley  11 383   


Looks like the pages 383 and 393 got mixed up

I have already ordered John Purnell m Eleanor King 11 383 and the GRO rejected it.

Can I order a certificate for only John Purnell and will that show me his wife's name?

Thanks for any suggestions

Jono

[Jono]

PS yes the John is in Chepstow in 51.

Any luck with finding Eleanor Roberts in 41?

[Arranroots]

Can I order a certificate for only John Purnell and will that show me his wife's name?

Hi Jono

Yes, you can order the cert that way, no problem.

Alternatively you could order a cert for their son and that would give the mother's maiden name.  You could then choose a matching marriage.

kind regards, Arranroots 

p.s. don't worry - if we had found the 1841 for Eleanor we would have posted it by now! She is elusive!!