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[al b]

Looking for any information on a John Thomas Roberts Married Marry Ann Gollop 1899 Dorset Born Ireland  any help appreciated  al b

[heywood]

sorry - this is not help but just wondering - would they be in 1901 census= have looked but can't find them?
Do you have an approximate year of birth for him?
Any clues at all?

best wishes
heywood

[al b]

Hello Heywood                                                                                                John Thomas Roberts was married to my great grandma Mary Ann Gollop 1899. he was said to have been born 1850 ish  Ireland His father was William about all I have on the old boy.  Alan

[heywood]

Apologies for more questions but it is too common a name at the moment to trace him.
Were they not in England in 1901?
Was Mary Ann a widow - just thinking that he would be on the old side or much older than her.
Have you seen the certificate- are there any other clues there - witnesses who could help to trace him.

[al b]

Hello Again   No apologies necessary I should apologise for not having more info I appreciate it. Here goes they were in Lym Regis 1901 Mary Ann was a widow William Gollop was killed while fishing 1893-5 John Thomas Roberts was also a widower Trying to find his people mother father etc. My Grandmother was Mary Ann and William Gollops daughter. She died 1973 and never mentioned This Roberts fellow. There is a lady in Axminster that is related to the Roberts that is trying to find him Thought I would try to help. Thanks Again  Alan

[heywood]

Well as often happens lots of other questions are answered but not the one you want!
I take it that Mary Ann was a widow when she married William, then widowed again and married John Thomas Roberts.
The question is where was John Thomas when all this was happening - intriguing,

[heywood]

No I can't  find him in 1881 or 1891 - or even 1901. Mary A is married but no husband there - wonder if he was a seaman or in the army or similar.

There is a child - Jessie Roberts aged 2 months-your friend could try to the certificates re his job.
sorry and good luck to you both
kath

[al b]

We found them 1901 they had a child Silvia that started the Roberts They only had one as they were both pretty old Would really like to see her find out about him  He was a fisherman Alan

[heywood]

Hello again,
that would account for his not being there.
The child however is Jessie if I have the right one. I can't  find a Silvia.
Mary A has 3 Gollop children, a Hodder son and Jessie. What do you think?
Ref: RG13; Piece: 2015; Folio: 35; Page: 20

I am searching 1850 +/- 5 yrs  for John Roberts (which would bring up T) born Ireland and looking at those few that may be around the coast! (there are paupers/ vagrants and prisoners but no fishermen).
The nearest I can find which is a long shot is:
1871 RG10; Piece: 3742; Folio: 129
John Roberts aged 15 yrs born Wexford a pupil aboard a training ship - the Akbar which belongs to Liverpool Port.
Just looked that up and it was for the reform of Protestant boys.

It is difficult to trace Irish records as early as 1850s. I have looked on Family Search but there is nothing.

My last shot would be to check the witnesses to the wedding - and perhaps even the godparents to the Roberts child to see if any of them can turn anything up. He may have had children from an earlier marriage but Roberts is too common a name to try to sift out without other details.