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Completed James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« on: Friday 23 February 07 05:27 GMT (UK) »
James was the sole member of his large family to go to Canada when his parents and 8 siblings went to Australia. He would have benn either Curch of Irelkand or Presbyterian.

In 1895 his son George Arnold wrote from Montreal to the police in Melbourne Victoria Australia  looking for his father's family. George also had a brother Robert and a sister whose married surname was Marjesson.

Any help in finding any records of his miration would be most welcome.

The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 February 07 20:30 GMT (UK) »
What year was he born, regross? Do you have a name for his wife...
There is a possible entry on the 1881/1901, but need more information....
He was born Ireland, correct? and do you have a first name for his wife?

We're probably also looking for the surname "Margesson", although no
surname similar in 1881 or 1901...
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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 February 07 03:54 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou for your response.

From his father's death certificate  in July 1870 James was listed as being 46 years old. This would mean his est dob 1823-1825.

He was still alive in 1895 when his son wrote to the police in Victoria.

I have no information on his wife at all.

The information on his children was obtained from 2 sources

1. The letter written by George and
2. A newspaper report on the death of a Gerald Clifford Marjerroson  26/12/1916 in Smith Falls Ontario.

His coffin was carried by his cousins George Arnold and Robert Arnold who were conductors on the CPR.
(George Arnold wrote in his letter that he was a conductor on the GTR.)

Clifford had a sisters Pearl and HAzel. HE was born 23/6/1893.

I have George's 1901 census entry

George Arnold - born April 9, 1858 - age 42 - born Toronto - protestant
>- conductor - wages - 800
>
>   Anna - wife - born Dec. 13, 1864 - age 36 - born Quebec - English
>   John - son - born - Nov.11, 1883 - age 17 -born Quebec - commis.
>(commissioner ?) - wages - 120
>   Edward - son - born Feb. 20, 1885 - age 16 - born Quebec - commis. -
>wages - 120
>   Catherine - daughter - born - Oct. 18, 1887 - age 13 - born Quebec
>   Joshua - son -  born - Nov. 11, 1890 - age 10 - born Quebec
>   James - son - born - Sept.29, 1892 - age 8 - born Quebec
>   Agnes - daughter - born - Mar.28, 1895 - age 6 - born Quebec
>   Adam - son - born - Oct 15, 1896 - age 5 - born Quebec
>   Robert - son - born - Oct. 20, 1900 - born Quebec

I am sorry but that is all teh inforamtion I have that I am certain of at this time.

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 February 07 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi...I was surprised to hear that you had found George in 1901...
also it still isn't established where James came from?  I can't find the entry as I wanted to see if he listed English or Irish...
Only one James Arnold but  b. 1831 Ireland in Montreal 1881...with wife Mary and one son Wm...but won't put everything up here to confuse the issue...as it seems we should be looking for James in Ontario to begin with as that is where his son George was born...J.J.
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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 February 07 03:31 GMT (UK) »
I know how hard it is to look at records such as the  early census' with very liitle information.

James Arnolds' grandfather was WILLIAM Arnold.

If James'ame had not been on his father's deaath certificate and if I had not foulnd the letter from his son George we wold not have known about him at all.

As the rest of his family came to Australia in 1850 I would speculate that it would have been somewhere around this time that he went to Canada. 

They most certainly came from Ireland as teh parishes etc are listed on teh marraige and death certificates.

But for me to research properly I feel I will need to go teh Ontario and to Montreal to pursue this branch of the family.

thanks for you interest and aassistance.

Robyn

The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 February 07 04:45 GMT (UK) »
If he was here in 1851, you can find him on the census...the whole site is free for 3 days...
http://content.ancestry.ca/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=1061&o_iid=27113&o_lid=27113&o_it=27113

The 1881 census for Canada is here,
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

and the 1901 and 1911 are here, the 1911 not totally indexed yet...
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

If you go up to the top of the page, under Emigrants to Canada we also have a resources board with some information on Quebec...Unfortunately we haven't a lot of information other than that at the moment, but more and more is online all the time...

You never know, just having the query online can get some answers if a living rellie finds it......J.J.
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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 February 07 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Robyn,

Not sure if you have this, but here is the death registration for:

Gerald Clifford Marjerrison
Age:  23 years, 5 months, 29 days
Date of Death:  December 20, 1916
Place of Birth:  Township of Roxboro
Place of Death:  Smith Falls Ontario
Place of Burial:  Roxboro
Occupation:  Trainman
Single
Father:  William R. Marjerrison
Mother:  Jennie Ferguson
Cause of Death:  Crushed Ribs Over Heart
Duration:  2 Hours
Reg. No. 019478

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 February 07 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Birth Registration for:

Hazel and Hilda Marjerrison, twins
Date of Birth:  August 5, 1903
Name of Father:  William R. Marjerrison
Name of Mother:  Jennie Ferguson
County of Stormont

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

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Re: James Arnold from Tyrone to Montreal c 1850
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 February 07 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Birth Registration for:

Cassy Mary Pearl Marjerrison
Date of Birth:  March 9, 1899
Father:  William Robert Marjerrison
Mother:  Jennie Ferguson
County of Stormont

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!