Poddington(Puddington)

[acky]

David,oops you may be right.1881census ,mary 95 livingwith  ellen now married to c lowe.mary born 1786,1871 census mary, pauper.Ellen born 1842 mother Jane born1817
where was mary born?1881 census says EatonSocon.
 any ideas  ACKY

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi Acky

When I saw John's post it confirmed my suspicions - forget Podington!

I believe this is your Ratcliffe family in 1851
HO107/1750 folio 337
Village of Wyboston, parish of Eaton Socon
Mary Rotly head unmarried 59 no occupation
Thomas Rotly brother unmarr 45 Lab
Jane Rotly dau unm 34 lacemaker
Susan Rotly grand dau 14 lace maker
George Rotly grandson 11 lab
Ellen Rotly grand dau 8
All born Eaton Socon

They are all indexed as Rolly, with Mary as Marly.

This seems to fix them all as being from Eaton Socon.

1861
RG(/984 folio 74A
Wyboston, Eaton Socon Beds
Mary Radcliffe head unmarried 69 washerwoman
Thomas Radcliffe brother unmarr 56 Ag Lab
George Radcliffe grandson unmarr 22 ag lab
Ellen Radcliffe grand dau unmarr 19 Lace maker
Mary J Radcliffe Gt grand dau 2 days
All born Eaton Socon

1841 (indexed as Rusheff) Not very clear on Ancestry but better on the CDrom
HO107/1/3 folio 11A
Little End Eaton Socon
Mary Ratcliffe 45 laundress
Thomas Ratcliffe 30 ag Lab
Jane Ratcliffe 20
Susan Ratcliffe 5
George Ratcliffe 2
Susan Oakley 10  (although indexed as 40!). * see below. She might be the key
All born in Beds

The problem is that I can't see Mary or Thomas's baptisms in Eaton Socon, and I've been through all the R's as spelling of Ratcliffe seems to be a bit variable.

A Mary Ratcliffe was buried on 23 Mar 1887 age 101 (!) and  a Thomas Ratcliffe age 78 on 12 Oct 1874, both at Eaton Socon.

I thought at first that Susan Ratcliffe born 1836/7 was another daughter of Jane, but now I think probably not. There's a baptism of Susan Ratcliffe on the IGI in ES on 16 April 1837 daughter of Edmond and Mary.

* There is a Susan Oakley baptised in ES in 1832 parents James and Sarah, and there's a marriage in ES of James Oakley and Sarah Rakliff on 13 Sept. 1827. There's a baptism of Sar Ratliff on the IGI on 26 Jan 1806 at ES dau of Harding Ratliff and Mary.

More when I've finished the bedtime story for my nipper!

David

[bedfordshire boy]

To continue - and I must stress that this is all speculative
Harding Radcliffe was buried at ES on 28 Apr 1829 age 82
A Mary Radliffe was buried on 13 Mar 1810.

There's a marriage in ES on 9 Dec 1789 between Harding Rudley and Mary Thorn. Bet it's him!

Harding and Mary baptised the following children in ES
John Ratcliff 25 Dec 1797
Rebecca Ratcliff 25 Dec 1797
Samuel Radley 27 Feb 1791
Sarah Ratliff 26 Jan 1806

I can't see that there were any other families in Eaton Socon 1790-1820, and there are no other Radcliffe burials that I've not given you.

I think that Thomas and Mary were probably children of Harding and Mary. Possibly Edmond too although I can find no other reference to him.

Proving it is another matter. As I said at the start, it's all speculation

Regards

David

[acky]

What would we do with out Roots chat, will have sit and digest it all later  .Thanks again  David, will come back ACKY

[bedfordshire boy]

A bit more to add to the indigestion.

Try A2A  - http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/documentxsl.asp?com=1&i=0&nbKey=2&stylesheet=xsl\A2A_com.xsl&keyword=ratcliffe&properties=0601
Bastardy proceedings can be very illuminating!

Beds records can also be searched at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/

Regards

David

[acky]

David indigestion much  worse NOW!!!!     ACKY