Completed, thanks - Where is Sarah? marriage and 1851 help please

[Michael Dixon]

 Can see your problems.....sorry , no clever solutions !


But  ......... Sarah nee Dodds, born circa 1812/13 ( 48 on c61, 58 on 71), has a dtr in 1848 within Tynemouth Reg District, to a Mr Ridley. so aged 35 by then.

Sarah is young enough for Mr Ridley to  have been second husband with Joseph P Morton, her third, and Mr A.N. Other number one .

Any such marriage cert or BMD index might show her as Sarah nee Dodds, formerly "??".. But she could easily have married before July 1837 ( she would have been 24/25 by then ?)

Sarah born in west of the county, brother ? William Dodds, the ship's carpenter, born in Wallsend, circa 1820/1 in the east of the county. So maybe Sara moved eastwards, into Tynemouth territory,(Wallsend in Tynemouth BMD jurisdiction) after she was 8 or so !

So maybe her marriages, all of them,  were within Tynemouth Reg Dist ( But Tynemouth's border with Newcastle City Reg District was  close to west end of Wallsend.


Whellans Trade Directory for Northumberland and Durham, published 1855, shows Sarah Ridley as publican in the SHIP, Howdon Panns.

It also shows a James Twizell as landlord of the Half Moon.

As you can tell, I am a member of the Ramblers Club !.

Michael Dixon

[Michael Dixon]

From amongst the four males and four females appearing on the same page of Tynemouth marriages March Qtr 1840... there is as Barbara points out, a Sarah Liddle and Thomas Ridley.

But, by looking for matched couples on the subsequent Census 1841, William Brumwell of the four men has a wife called Sarah ??

Michael Dixon

[Ecneps]

Thanks Michael for your 'ramblings', much appreciated.    
Actually you've raised something else now, I thought Sarah was at the same pub, taking 1861 census address in Howdon 'Ship Inn formerly Halfof Moon' to mean the pub had changed its name, but I now see there's a Ship Inn further down the same page (appropriately in street called Dirty Gutter) - so 2 Ship Inns in same street??  then in 1871 she's Innkeeper at the Ship, but this time in Chapel Street, Howdon - odd

I don't know why I'm so bothered about Sarah, she's not even direct line, (hence the initial reluctance to buy a certificate) - but I have all her later details and I hate loose ends.  I'm also curious as to where she went off to in 1851 leaving a 2-yr old at home.

Ordering Eliz.D.Ridley's b. cert tomorrow....I'll give up looking for the first marriage(s) until I get that, and hope it gives me all her surnames!

Barbara

[Michael Dixon]

Barbara,

I usually stoutly defend census enumerators and record takers in general, cos I think they did a good job. ( I also think the vast majority of folk registered all their BMDs, even from early doors in 183040s... my mother's Irish crowd registered everything that moved from late 1840s... and the Irish were supposed to avoid registration for fear of "been sent back to Ireland)

However, I just think in this case Sarah and her hubby have just been missed off the final return.

Where did you get Sarah's "Simonburn" birthplace from ?

MD

[Ecneps]

I got Simonburn from baptisms on familyhistoryonline some time ago, and rechecking thanks to you I realise it was her father who was from Simonburn, Sarah baptised Slaley

baptised 6 Sep 1812 Sarah Dodd, father Robert, mother Elizabeth, mother's maiden name Rattlecliff, place Slaley, father's occupation shoemaker of Simonburn, mother from Stanhope.

oops will edit original posting

[sillgen]

All those searches I did on Simonburn.......!
Janis - is there any suitable marriage for Sarah Dodds pre 1837?
Let us know when you get the birth certificate.
Andrea

[Michael Dixon]

Just a snippet...

Index of Wallsend Parish marriages, 1813-1837 is online on Wallsend portion of GenUkI......... plenty of Sarah brides... even a Sarah Codling (m. Thomas Storey 8 Dec 188), but can't see a Sarah Dodd(s) or any Sarah marrying a Ridley.
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I don't know if this was a feature only in north-east England booze business, but in my booze binge era ( 1958-until next week) the licensee's name above the pub door, was always female, whether or not the man of the house worked behind the bar or outside. My father once explained the rationale behind this to me, but as usual I was too busy to listen properly.. too late now !

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Michael Dixon

[Ecneps]

All those searches I did on Simonburn.......!

Andrea - so sorry, and I moan to myself when others don't give the right info 
Barbara

[sillgen]

No problem really as it kept me busy on a gloomy Sunday.  An excuse not to do the housework!
Andrea