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Offline Darksecretz

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Re: Date GG Grandad please
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 March 07 19:43 GMT (UK) »
hi mudge,

baby is around 6-7 months, it looks like the grandad is just holding on supporting baby from behind, ( my baby, is nearly 7 months, and she can sit albeit only for few moments without flopping forward, if i propped her up, then, she'd sit quite happily.
The grandad, i'd say late 60's early 70's . hope this helps,

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 March 07 00:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank Darksecretz, your observations are in-line with my thinking, but about 10 years adrift from China's estimate.
My thoughts are that the infant could be my Grandfather born 1881, and the adult my Great Great Grandfather born 1822
What do the rest of you think  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Mudge 

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Re: Date GG Grandad please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 March 07 03:47 GMT (UK) »
Okay, I didn't use the front of the photo at all, because men's fashions, and babies', don't give as much to work with as ladies' fashions. But also very important in dating a photo is the mount, and pose, the crop and what is on the back.

I used the back.

Photos on a card mount, cartes-de-visite, taken during the 1860s have nothing on the backs but a small crest-shaped lozenge, usually in the middle. It's a very simple look, with the photographer's name and address and not much else. The corners of the card are square.

During the 1870s the designs on the back of the cards gradually got a bit more complex, but still straightforwardly name and address. Not until about 1878 or so do the rounded corners start to come in. Type is horizontal on the card.

Toward the late 70s and into the 1880s the slant comes in, and corners are always rounded. The backs are cluttered and scrolly, with lots of lacy, fiddly-looking designs. Very busy.

By about 1900 the corners go square again and the art deco look starts to come in, with the Victorian scrollwork being left behind.

This is why I made the guess that I did. Judging only by the back of the card, I'd say 1860s-70s may be a bit early. If you'd like to make your own evaluation there's a good site here:
http://www.cartes.freeuk.com/time/time.htm

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China
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Re: Date GG Grandad please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 12 March 07 03:48 GMT (UK) »
Is he teaching the baby to say "Gottle of geer !! "..  ;D ;D ;D ;)
Poll ???



sorry ..the hour is late  ;) ;) :-\ :o
Reynolds Johnson Chapman Goodyear Wright   Demmon Maddison Jackson Bush Lingard<br />Lincolnshire Northants,Essex.   Soutar  McKenzie Stuart Watt Banff, Coupar Angus, Glen Livet, Broughty Ferry, Coatbridge, Airdrie Lanarkshire and Saskatchewan, Hamilton Wentworth, Canada. Phillips. Coyne- March Cambs, Islington,Hackney 1st Lincolnshire Regt 1914

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Re: Date GG Grandad please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 March 07 03:55 GMT (UK) »
LOL Poll, you nut ;D
Moore/Paterson~Montreal
Moore/Addison~New Brunswick
Jubb/Kerr~Mirfield~Halifax~Moffatt
Williams~Dolwyddelan

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 12 March 07 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps it's a "doll" Poll  Sorry couldn't resist that  ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for the comprehensive / useful explanation China  ;) ;) ;)
Using this I have come to the conclusion that they are:
- My G G Grandfather John b: 1822
- My Grandfather James Henry b: Nov1881
which would make the photo c1882, which fits in with your criteria :o :o
Thanks everyone for your time and help :) ;) :D ;D
Mudge

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 12 March 07 10:51 GMT (UK) »
You have to admit ...the  pose does look a bit like a ventriloquist and his dummy ! lol ;D ;D ;D Though I can't imagine anyone related to Mudge being happy with being told what to say !!....ouch  :o

Poll ;).
Reynolds Johnson Chapman Goodyear Wright   Demmon Maddison Jackson Bush Lingard<br />Lincolnshire Northants,Essex.   Soutar  McKenzie Stuart Watt Banff, Coupar Angus, Glen Livet, Broughty Ferry, Coatbridge, Airdrie Lanarkshire and Saskatchewan, Hamilton Wentworth, Canada. Phillips. Coyne- March Cambs, Islington,Hackney 1st Lincolnshire Regt 1914

Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 12 March 07 14:20 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Date GG Grandad please
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 March 07 14:40 GMT (UK) »
I've just reread this thread. I was dating the photo, but Darksecretz was dating the baby and the grandpa. No reason why we all can't be right ;D

Cheers,
China
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Moore/Addison~New Brunswick
Jubb/Kerr~Mirfield~Halifax~Moffatt
Williams~Dolwyddelan

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Jenkins~Somerset
Sellers~Hull