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Offline gazania

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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 04:57 GMT (UK) »
My g grandfather was baptised as Edmond in Bucks.  He migrated as a child with his family to OZ.  Official records record him as Edward, Edmund and Edmond with even his next of kin as informants not being consistant.  He was Edward on his marriage cert and Edmund on the birth of a child and on his death cert.  Luckily for me, my mother knew his name as Edmund and as he lived for most of his life in a small town, I had little trouble tracking him.  But most knew him as Ted anyway.

So despite the variations on the spelling and the origins, I would suggest that in a lot of cases all three spellings could refer to the same person.  I would hazard a guess that Edward is far more common than the other two. I wonder though that the variation occurs from Edmo (u)nd to Edward. Not the other way around -if that makes sense. Happy hunting, Gazania
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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 09:01 GMT (UK) »
My ggg-grandfather was married as Edmund and he was named as Edmund on the baptism record of his first child. From then on he was named as Edward in all the baptism records, census records and his death certificate. He named a son Edward.  His surname was also recorded using 4 different spellings over a ten year period in the Parish Records. His was the only family by that name in the records at that time.

This was a small parish in Norfolk.

.......dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 10:05 GMT (UK) »
In the 1881 census there were 326,464 Edwards, 27,024 Edmunds, and 3,816 Edmonds. From the 'British 19th Century Surname Atlas'
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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 11:10 GMT (UK) »
I have Edwards and Edmunds in my ancestry - including in one particular line - but no evidence of the names ever being muddled up, thank goodness!!

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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Stan - thanks for that response. However I have a death certificate in the name of Josiah & an entry in the probate calendar (administration ie no will) for Jesse - date & address & widow's name match. It also appears he was baptised (pre 1837) as Jesse, but married as Josiah. Some folk are just awkward!

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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 13:45 GMT (UK) »
I have Edmunds and Edwards in my family, and some in my mom's generation. In our family at least, Edmund is Edmund, and if you say Edward, get a distinct correcting.

My gr gr grandfather was Josiah and he had a son Josiah, who as an adult started going by Joseph. Never heard that one mixed up with Jesse, but one thing I have learned in all my research: anything is possible!

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Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 21:41 GMT (UK) »

Here is one instance where the names could have been interchangeable:


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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 21:51 GMT (UK) »
And another - my grandad, who my Mum says was Edward, his birth certificate says Edmund, his sister said Edward, and the marriage certificate I have just ordered, and who knows what that will say...?

His friends called him "Ted" or - just to add to the confusion - "Abe"  ::)

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Re: Edward/Edmund
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 23:39 GMT (UK) »
I think there are so many instances of this and it is so frustrating. My name is one: Kathleen. How many variations are there of it?! I have been called Kathy, Kate, Kat, Katherine. Never called Kitty. And then there are the C spellings of all the same. And then there is Margaret/Meg. And even Mary can be confusing. I have a relative Mary who was always called Mae and several called Mame. And I had a very hard time finding their real names

In my family they were very definite about the Edmund, and maybe that was because of years of being called Edward.

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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA