Creetown Marshalls

[ankerdine]

Hello Gadget.
Yes, so you noticed! It took me a little working out though. I am a bit rusty with IT since I retired a year or so ago.
No, I must admit I was only guessing re John Williamson at Twynholm. It sounded like a good bet, he being a vagrant with 2 children. I only have the 1881 census records but I think he may have died by then. The family of Williamsons were by then living at Back Ramparts, Stranraer, all children being born at Stoneykirk, save for my gt.aunt Mary aged 1 yr, who was born in Stranraer. I must admit the only evidence I have is the marriage certificate which was extremely difficult to read = you did very well deciphering it accurately. Also, on Jane Williamson's death certificate her husband John Williamson is described as a "dealer". Now that could cover a multitude of sins, couldn't it?
I hope I can help someone some day with their genealogy problems. You must have the patience of Job.
Regards,
Ankerdine

[Gadget]

 

I have no patience whatsoever. I'm one of those 'don't suffer........gladly' types  However, I love puzzles and problem solving - straight look ups are boring - I like to get my teeth into the families 

I'll have a little nose around - maybe his death cert might give us some info 

Gadget

[Gadget]

 

Got him - how can we be pleased to find  deaths 

12th November 1877, Stranraer, aged 48. No mention of previous wife, only your Jane. paralysis 18 months. Informant was Jane Williamson, daughter.  So it seems that his marriage cert age was about right.

Have you tried the 1841 - although, it did say on the cert that he was born in Northern Ireland 


Gadget

[Gadget]

In  1871 they are in Stranraer:

Volume 899 ED 9 Page 4

11 Back Rampart

John, 46, labourer, b. Ireland
Jane, 37, b. Crosshill, Ayreshire
John, 13, scholar, b. Stoneykirk
Jane, 10,  hand loomer ? b. Inch
Alexander, 8,  scholar b. Stoneykirk
Robert, 5, scholar, b. Stoneykirk
Francis, 3, b. Stoneykirk
Mary, 4 mths, b. Leswalt

No luck on the 1861 as yet 

Apart from the Twynholm one, the only other John Williamson, b. Ireland,  on the 1851 is an ag lab in Mochrum. Wigtownshire, aged 25.

Gadget

[ankerdine]

Nice work once again. However, there's nearly 10 years difference between John and Jane on this latest census. I really would like him to be the Twynholm John with that ready-made family. I wonder what happened to that Margaret, John and David.
The old fishing "hovels" in Back Ramparts have been demolished. There is a brand new bungalow near where No. 11 stood. The gentleman who owned it was amused and interested, I think, to hear what my husband and I were looking for. He sent us off to speak to Shirley McNeillie, the Stranraer Registrar and Secretary of the Stranraer and District Family History Society. It was she who broke the news to me that Granny was illegitimate.

In conclusion, it must have been a healthy life to be a tinker/tinsmith/gypsy as the Marshalls seem to have thrived and lived long lives. Hope the trend continues....

Regards,

Ankerdine

[caroclay]

don't know if this is perhaps of the same family

i have a william marshall in my tree

in 1873 i have william as a tinsmith/pauper in wigtown
married to agnes adam

and his son is stewart marshall born 1853 in port william, wigtownshire

[Gadget]

Hi Caro 

they might well be - can you give more info on your 1873 source, please? Was it a death or document?

I'll have a ferret around later to see what I can come up with and Ankerdine might well have some more info on the family.

Regards

Gadget

[ankerdine]

Hello Caro

As Gadget suggested I looked back through my notes and found a William Marshall (whitesmith/tinsmith) firstly married to an Elizabeth Gibson and, subsequently, he appeared to marry an Agnes Adam. I only found this information through Family Search and it has not been verified elsewhere. I found a son, James G Marshall, born 1851 in Port William so this family looks promising for you . I also found that my gtx3 grandfather was an Alexander Marshall son of the above William Marshall and Elizabeth Gibson.

I think that there is a lot more information elsewhere on this site but I don't know how to insert a link for you.

Maybe Gadget could assist us here. She is VERY HELPFUL

Good luck with your Marshalls.

Judy

[Gadget]

what do you mean by this, ankerdine:

She is VERY HELPFUL 

Pretty easy really!

I just pressed  sSearch Rootschat  and put in Marshall by member ankerdine.  These are some of the threads:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,220750.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,272191.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,104334.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,252868.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,275204.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,225919.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,275571.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,281397.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,296371.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,247515.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,259421.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,219463.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,319851.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,230427.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,249960.0.html



Now that's quite a lot for one family 

Gadget