Hya Ambly,
They are my great, great grandparents, (obviously the little John you see listed is my great grandfather John, father to my nan, who at 85 is still alive and kicking and as fit as a fiddle, - not lost any of her Glaswegian charm either, even after living in Macclesfield for the past forty odd years).
I have got this and other documents off Scotlands People but to be honest there is a lot of conflicting evidence which confuses me - eg) on this census John Doran is down as 29 therefore making his approx date of birth 1862, on his death certificate in 1923 he is listed as being 54, (very clear copy), which would make his date of birth approx 1869 and on his marriage certificate dated 1886 his age is down as 25 which would make his date of birth 1861 approx. The same can be said for Catherine Kerr/Carr also, (differing ages/fathers name).
Thomas Kerr is actually Catherine Kerr's brother and I am still looking for any info on Cathrine McGlaughlin.
Any how, John Doran's father is always listed as John Doran and his mother is down as Helen Lee on his death certificate but as Joan (or Jean) Quinn on his marriage certificate - I have tried LDS, Scotlands People, and Ancestry and cross referenced names, dates, etc but all to no avail.....
Now, the Margaret listed as being 11 is actually the daughter of Catherine Carr to her first husband Joseph O'Donnell and I have tracked her right through to her marriage in later years and also seen her birth certificate and death certificate which collaborates this. Catherine is, respectively listed as being Catherine Doran, formerly O'Donnell, m/s Kerr/Carr. (Her first husband was a steam engine fireman with the merchant service and although she married him when 17, was a widower within a few years).
I really couldn't even begin to guess when John Doran could have first come over to Liverpool or Glasgow. In fact every single one of my gran's grandparents were born in Ireland, according to marriage and death certs and census reports, but there is no clue as to when they ventured over here or to Glasgow. (Wether they were babes in arms or off on adventures as soon as they were old enough to do so - with or without parents) All I do know is that there does seem to be a common occupation with reference to quay or dock labourors.
If you think you can point me in any direction which could lead to further clues, etc, please, please don't hesitate no matter how flimsy the information or direction could be.
Thanks so much for getting back to me, as you can probably tell, I'm getting more desperate by the minute.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Michelle
