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Can this be right?
« on: Monday 12 March 07 03:42 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I posted this under Yorkshire before  ???

  ::)I am trying to solve the mystery of Joseph and Rebecca (Rebekah) Wilson, grand parents of James Herman Wilson in an earlier post .  I have the 1851 and 1861 census for Joseph and Rebecca, but I have a problem which I cannot fathom out and would like your advice.

Joseph (1806) and Rebecca (1808) married 1827 in Nottinghamshire.  They had a son William Wilson born 1828 in Nottinghamshire.

On the 1851 census I find more children, but a vast difference in years to William.  The children shown on the census are:
Fanny Wilson      born 1845
Harriott   "              '    1840
Margaret  "             "   1842

Am I missing something here?Huh     

I have checked and re checked but Joseph born 1808 in Darton, Notts and Rebecca born 1808 in Marnham, Notts, are the parents in both cases.

I have been singing the praises of Rootschat on a Yorkshire site and everyone is thrilled with the help they have received from you all  Smiley
Foulkes, Peacock, Bailey, Steadman, Peachey  - Soham, Cambridgeshire

Lumsden -  Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Cartwright, Hutton, Umpleby, Johnson,Wilson,  Morgan - Leeds/Malton, Yorkshire

Dickinson - Bolton-on-Dearne, Yorkshire
Jackman - Gt.Yarmouth.

Brown, Lord, Plowman - Leeds, Etton, Yorkshire.
Hallan. London-Leeds
Hall. Nottinghamshire
Kenney, Campbell, Bowen, Griffiths, Davies, all Swansea

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Re: Can this be right?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 March 07 04:17 GMT (UK) »
Just some initial thoughts ...

Do you have the family in the 1841 census to see if there are any other children born to this couple?

If Rebecca was born around 1808, she would only be 37 when Fanny was born - not very old.

You would assume there to be more children born between 1828 and 1840, but you may be looking for kids who don't exist ... perhaps some died young?

Hopefully you'll get some constructive help from other rootschatters. Good luck in your search.

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Re: Can this be right?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 March 07 04:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ruskie, Thanks for your quick reply.  I keep trawling through the 1841 census but so far have not found any of the family.  There is not a lot of information on the 1841 to pin them down exactly.  I have tried looking for Joseph, then Rebekah and also William.  I did find a William, but he was away from home so he is not definite.    I realise that Rebekah is still of child bearing age, but it was the big gap from 1828 to 1840 with the ages of the children that made me wonder why. I guess anything is possibly though in those days. The children don't appear on the 1861 census where Joseph and Rebecca are living with son William and his family  ???
Maureen
Foulkes, Peacock, Bailey, Steadman, Peachey  - Soham, Cambridgeshire

Lumsden -  Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Cartwright, Hutton, Umpleby, Johnson,Wilson,  Morgan - Leeds/Malton, Yorkshire

Dickinson - Bolton-on-Dearne, Yorkshire
Jackman - Gt.Yarmouth.

Brown, Lord, Plowman - Leeds, Etton, Yorkshire.
Hallan. London-Leeds
Hall. Nottinghamshire
Kenney, Campbell, Bowen, Griffiths, Davies, all Swansea

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Re: Can this be right?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 March 07 04:54 GMT (UK) »
Denmark - have you requested help in finding this family in 1841? I just thought you might find an extra child or two if there are any.

There are some excellent "looker-uppers" amongst the rootschatters! Might be worth a try.


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Re: Can this be right?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 March 07 05:04 GMT (UK) »
No, I haven't exactly asked for help in finding them on the 1841. I have had a great deal of help before so I know how helpful Rootschatters are. I will post a request and keep my fingers crossed.   Maureen
Foulkes, Peacock, Bailey, Steadman, Peachey  - Soham, Cambridgeshire

Lumsden -  Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Cartwright, Hutton, Umpleby, Johnson,Wilson,  Morgan - Leeds/Malton, Yorkshire

Dickinson - Bolton-on-Dearne, Yorkshire
Jackman - Gt.Yarmouth.

Brown, Lord, Plowman - Leeds, Etton, Yorkshire.
Hallan. London-Leeds
Hall. Nottinghamshire
Kenney, Campbell, Bowen, Griffiths, Davies, all Swansea

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Re: Can this be right?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 March 07 05:32 GMT (UK) »
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.  ;)

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Re: Can this be right?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 March 07 05:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

I found these on the IGI (I expect you've seen them). Not sure of the geography of the area so these may not be yours, but will post anyway.

father: Joseph Wilson
mother: Rebecca

all born Scrooby, Nottingham

John chr 27 Mar 1831, d 14 Apr 1831
Emma chr 24 June 1832
Ann chr 5 Oct 1834
Sarah b 9 Feb 1836, chr 14? Feb(can't read my own writing) 1836

There are a couple of others but dates don't seem quite right.

And there is this marriage Joseph Wilson = Rebecca Hall 17 Sept 1827 Marnham Nottingham.




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« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 March 07 06:40 GMT (UK) »
A possible?
Rebecca Norman Hall
chr 2 Feb 1809
Marnham
Nottingham
mother Rebecca Hall
no father named - possible clue Norman?

There are many many Joseph Wilsons born around same time & place ....

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 March 07 08:00 GMT (UK) »
I can't thank you enough for finding that information for me.  I don't know why I did not find the info on the IGI...guess I did not look properly.   

Now I know there were more children between the ones I posted. The missing Harriott was born in Scrooby too  :)

I did have the marriage of Joseph and Rebecca, and had her maiden name, but I did not have the details of her birth and her mother.  Thanks again....you are a star  :)
Foulkes, Peacock, Bailey, Steadman, Peachey  - Soham, Cambridgeshire

Lumsden -  Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Cartwright, Hutton, Umpleby, Johnson,Wilson,  Morgan - Leeds/Malton, Yorkshire

Dickinson - Bolton-on-Dearne, Yorkshire
Jackman - Gt.Yarmouth.

Brown, Lord, Plowman - Leeds, Etton, Yorkshire.
Hallan. London-Leeds
Hall. Nottinghamshire
Kenney, Campbell, Bowen, Griffiths, Davies, all Swansea