Langholm churchyard, look up.

[bougie]

  Hi mo1543
 Wondering if you could look for any Mcvitties in Langholm churchyard please.
 My mcvittie side seem to all come from there between the years 1670 /1770.
      many thanks
             bougie

[Reiver]

Hi Bougie

There are very many McVitties buried at Langholm
I have an electronic  copy of the transcriptions.  I believe the Langholm Archive Centre http://www.langholmarchivecentre.org.uk/
are in the process of publishing it.  You may remember I sent the McVittie memorial details at Unthank.

Is there a particular member of the McVittie family I could look for?.   You may know of the book Langholm As it Was.  John Hyslop also wrote Echoes from the Border Hills.  His wife was Jannet McVittie daughter of Robert McVittie and Jean Jackson    His family trees are in the front

Regards
Reiver

[stoney]

My Great Uncle (David J. Beattie) wrote several books in the 1930's (?) including one called "Oor Ain Folk", in which he recorded the results of tramping round churchyards in and around Langholm, noting down MI's. Some of them were were badly eroded then so they are possibly now illegible after another 70-odd years of acid rain!

I came across this entry, which he found in Wauchope churchyard, if it is of interest:

"Here lyes Andrew McVeti N.  Nurthm,who died 16 day of Agest, 1713, his age 66. Here lyes John McVeti, his son, who died 25th April, 1714, his age 29."

[bougie]

  Hello again reiver. Howzit gaun?.
 You are a mine of absolutely brilliant information. I didn't know of this book
 but i shall certainly have to buy it.
 Mcvittie graves that i am looking for are;
 JAMES MCVITTIE[or other spelling]b;1670 in Murtholm. Don't know where or
 when he died but i think it will be Murtholm .
 ROBERT MCVITTIE b,1735 in Murtholm [don't know where or when he died
 either] and his wife MARION LITTLE d 1802
 ALEXANDER MCVITTIE d 1820 Hallcroft Langholm age 84-86 and his wife
 MARY SCOTT d 1796
 JOHN MCVITTIE d 1842 Hallcroft age 77-79 and his wife JANET HYSLOP d 1853
 age 87-89.
 By the way Reiver i have found Sarah Chambers[Armstrong] death cert .
 She died in 1858 at Fiddleton and is buried in Unthank cemy.
 I can't get a trace on her husband William Armstrong yet as there are
 eleven William A'S who could fit so i have to find his grave to determine his
 year of birth so that i may find the right one. Hope fully he was also buried in 
 Unthank and there is a stone. He died a while before Sarah as she was a
 widow on the 1841 census.
 How is the search for your Robert Beattie going ?
   bougie
 

[bougie]

  Hi Stoney
 This is another book i must get a copy of . Do you know where i can buy one?
 In my Mcvittie tree i have gotten back as far as James Mcvittie[spelt many
 ways] who was born 1670 in Murtholm [could this possibly be Nurthm?]
 Andrew would have been 23 when James was born so there is a possibility
 of him being James's father or uncle. Where is Wauchope cemy in relation to
 Murtholm ? Reiver may be able to tell me that one.
 I see you are also on the Beattie trail, i wonder if they are the same line as
 Reivers Beatties?
   Many thanks for the info Stoney, this may prove to be another generation
 of my family.
    bougie

[stoney]

Hi, Bougie.

The books my G-Uncle wrote were printed a long while ago, but I did hear they might be re-issued by the original publisher, who's name escapes me at the moment....

My line of Beattie's goes back to John Beattie b.circa 1701, who married Janet Holiday in Canonbie.

As far as I can tell, Wauchope appears to be west of Murtholm. I was up there last weekend, and hubby and I managed to find the Wauchope cemetary which is currently in use - however, there is an older, disused one which we didn't have time to find so we'll have to save that for another visit.

Hope you get on OK with your McVitties - if I find anything else I'll get back to you!

[Reiver]

Hello again Bougie.
Nothing at all on the Robert Beattie front, I'm afraid.  There are three cemeterys in Langholm as far as I'm aware.  One is Langholm Old Cemetery; second Wauchope and third Staplegordon.  I think I know where they are and Stoney has directed you to one (Wauchope).  I suspect if you went down to Langholm someone would direct you.

Of the four McVittie families you mentioned there are published transcriptions about two of them.  They may be next to one another - they are numbered consecutively - in Langham Old Cemetery.
I'm conscious there may be copyright issues but in one:
Alexander McVittie died 1820 aged 84 years
Mary Scott died 1796 aged 63 yrs.
There are also two young children.
In the second;
John McVittie, Farmer, Hallcrofts died died 1842 aged 77
Janet Hyslop died 1853 aged 86 years.
and son James.

I cannot find any reference to a burial of either James McVittie (b1670) or Robert McVittie & Marion Little. 

However . . .
there is a reference to Robert McVittie & Marion Little in "Langholm as it Was".  (the most recent edition)  on Page 245.  "Marion (McVittie)'s father was James McVittie, son of Robert McVittie in Murtholm and Marion Little"

I hope this adds usefully to your knowledge
Where did you get your dates for James and Robert& Marion?

Regards
Reiver

[stoney]

Reiver - what dates/places do you have for your Beattie's?

I took a number of photos of Beattie memorials in Canonbie churchyard last week, one was a Robert Beattie d.01/Sep/1864, in Langholm aged 50 (?) years and his spouse Agnes Armstrong.

Another stone was for a Robert Beattie who died at Park House 30/Aug/1845 aged 60 - together with details of his spouse, Margaret Muir, and a second spouse Sybella Bell.

I'd be happy to forward the pics if you're interested!

[Reiver]

Thanks Stoney for thinking of me.

My Robert Beattie died at Loochmaben aged in 81 in 1851,  therefore was born c1770.  My own research has taken me over most of Eskdale and though I have found a lot of Beattie information I can't find anything about my Robert.

He may of course have been born anywhere but family research done some 100 years ago suggested that he came from Eskdale and more specifically Wat Carrick. 

I know he married Mary Graham first and then Janet Chalmers in 1812.

Regards
Reiver