i need help !

[Dizzifish]

Hi All.

I agree with what has been said the marriage would give you better information to go on.
But as I had  looked at the Notts FHS birth and marriage index and thought I would mention it....

This baptism, and it is the only Ethel Brentnall that came up, and no other children seem to have been baptised to this couple;

ETHEL BRENTNALL, father Joseph, mother Selina, born 7th Dec 1893, baptised 25th Feb 1894 at Nottingham St Mary, fathers occupation Cordmaker.

Marriage;
JOSEPH BRENTNALL SESTON & SELINA SLACK, 10th June 1893, at Nottingham St Mary.

As you mentioned a possible marriage to Selina Slack I wonder if it is relevant, maybe he dropped the surname Seston?

I don't mean to confuse the issue, just something to consider at some point?

Regards Sheila.

[Tati]

This is the 1901 census I can see:

1901
RG13/3180 44 10
Nottingham
17 Regent Hill
Joseph Brentnall, head, 32, Bricklayers labourer
Selina, wife, 28
Ethel, dau, 7
Annie, dau, 5
Sylvia, dau, 3
Selina, dau, 3 months

All born Nottingham

[Tati]

I see a birth registered in the name Joseph Brentnall Seston in 1868 - ties in perfectly.

Good bet for 1881, given mother's name 'Silvy':
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=17746669

Though apparently Sylvia and Joseph weren't married until 1884:
June 1884 - Nottingham 7b 564
Joseph Brentnall to possibly Silvya Seston

[cov2811]

oh Thankyou so much hopefully i may be able to get somewhere on this side of the family now I've been slightly puzzled by the brentnalls

[Tati]

Indeed John, Joseph and Samuel were all registered as Brentnall Seston (they are all on FreeBMD)

[Tati]

I'm not sure what the 1881 occupation actually says for father Joseph - it might be 'cannot work' - he is blind.

Silvya's age is a little out in 1881 too - she  was born ca. 1845 - will post previous census details for her later.

As for Joseph, senior, he apparently wasn't too sure about his age either ...

1891
RG12/2700 44 4
Nottingham St Mary
13 Risles Place Barker Gate
Joseph Brentnall, head, 59, Beggar, b. Notts Carlton - Blind
Sylvia, wife, 48, b. do.
Annie, dau, 16, Box Maker, b. Nottingham
Samuel, son, 13, scholar, b. do.
Emily, dau, 11, scholar, b. do.
Henry Harrison, boarder, s, 25, Printer, b. Notts Bingham

1901
RG13/3169 35 23
Nottingham St Mary
13 Risles Place
Sylvia Brentnall, head, wid, 60, Charwoman, b. Notts Carlton
Emily, dau, s, 22, Cardboard Box Maker, b. Nottingham
Henry Harrison, boarder, s, 34, Printer (Compositor), b. Notts Bingham

[Tati]

Sylvia in 1851:
HO107/2128 355 28
Carlton, Nottinghamshire
Joseph Seston, head, 56, Wheelwright, b. Burton Joyce? 
Emelen, wife, 52, Laundress, b. Nottingham
Sylvea, dau, 6, scholar, b. Carlton
George Walker, boarder?, mar, 60, Watch Maker, b. Nottingham

From the IGI:
Silvy Seston - christening 28 Jul 1844 Gedling Nottinghamshire
parents Joseph Seston and Emily
(possible marriage for Joseph and Emily: Joseph Seston - Emily Warriner 6 June 1819 St Mary Nottingham)

[Jane Eden]

Hi Cov

I agree with Tati in 1851 the place of birth is Burton Joyce. I think George Walker is a visitor not a boarder. Also it is Riste's Place not Risles. Riste's Place is off Barker Gate just to the NE of St Marys church leading almost to Woolpack Lane.

Jane