Sheffield couple - where are they? Please help!

[Dalum]

Shireoaks is in the Worksop Registration District, according to thie Nottinghamshire gazeteer at GenUKI:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NTT/Gazetteer.html

I think you can drive into the Catholic Cemetery, but in any case you can park along the other side of Rivelin Valley Road, next to the paddling pool.

I can't help you with a burial place for Fred and Florence. You could ask on the Nottinghamshire page on this site.

If you want to visit Ellen's grave in our cemetery (St Mary's) there is a small area for parking close to the gate which is in Nichols Road (access via Waller Road). I don't think the grave has a gravestone so you will need a plan which I can supply if you send me a private message with an email address. I will check the grave next time I am there, just to see if I'm right about a gravestone. This grave will be under trees and probably covered in ivy.

Finding a burial place for Austin may need a visit to Sheffield Archives. He is certainly not buried at Walkley (I double checked now we know the quarter). He could be buried at Wardsend where those children are buried. The published index only covers up to 1905.  At the moment it is very difficult to find particular graves at Wardsend which is in a very dilapidated and overgrown state. I have it mind to work on improving the plans to make it easier but that will take time. There are published MIs for Wardsend which I checked but there are no BINIs in the index.

Beyond that the indexes for the municipal cemeteries will need searching. They are on microfilm in the Archives.

I will take a look for Florence but that will have to wait as it is long past bedtime!

Hugh 

[mich b]

Hugh You're a gent,

Thanks very much for everything you've done, I'm so grateful.

Michelle 

P.s. will now PM you.

[MJP]

Hi Michelle,

Here is the 1861 census entry for Albert Pindar that Tuppie found (good eye!  I could not see him at all  ). Crabtree is his place of birth.  With this info, I will have a look for him in previous census records...

1861
RG9/3477/110/9
28 Regent Street, Sheffield
Albert Lucas Pindar, Apprentice, 15, File Cutter, born Crabtree Yorkshire
Living in the household of Christopher Smith, File Cutter, with his wife and 6 children.

MJP


 

[mich b]

Brilliant MJP

Thanks for that. I'm relieved he's a file cutter as I'd misread on the marriage certificate as a possible "Pile" cutter. I din't fancy that as an occupation! Phew.

Michelle 

[MJP]

Well, I can't seem to find a likely candidate for him on the 1851.    But I did find out that Crabtree is a little part of Brightside Bierlow, on the outskirts of Sheffield.  See this http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/index.html

MJP

[mich b]

Goodness, all these unusually named areas in Sheffield. My dad says there were lots of small, but defined places very close to one another with odd titles. Brightside, Crabtree, Crooks, Neeps End, Hills etc

I may have to apply for a birth certificate for Albert PINDER to see whether he was known by any other name at birth. He's a fair way down the list though and I can afford about one or two a month.

Thanks again MJP

Michelle 

[Tuppie]

Hi.

The 1851 census has an Albert PINDER aged 7 HO107/2336 folio 355 page 6
with a father Edward.

Have to dash now as going out, if no one has posted it for you I will check it when I get back

Tuppie

[Dalum]

1851 census
HO107/2336 folio 355F

address: Totley
Ecclesiastical District: Dore & Totley

Edward PINDER Head M 38 sawyer  DBY Hol___field?*
Sarah  Wife M 30 DBY Beeley
Emmaly  Dau 10 scholar DBY Dore
Louasia Dau 12 scholar DBY Dore
Edwin Son 9 scholar DBY Dore
Albert Son 7 scholar DBY Dore
Walter Son 4 scholar DBY Totley
Salena Dau 1 DBY Totley

*Holmsfield in 1861 index, but one or two extra letters in the middle here.
Emmaly and Louasia as written. I looked for another 'Emmaly'/Emily to compare in the e.d. but this was the only one!

Dore is a long way from Crabtree, so probably not a good candidate 

Hugh

[mich b]

Thanks Hugh and Tuppie,

So as Dore is a good distance from Crabtree and the "father" is still around when Albert's 7-years old, I would've thought that Albert would've put his father on his marriage cert. (if this was our Albert). I'm with Hugh, I don't think it's a good candidate.

Never mind a good try. Thanks again.

Michelle