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Brasted
« on: Saturday 24 March 07 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

does anyone have access to PR's for Brasted, kent?

The names I am looking for is Henry Hall and William Hall b abt 1791. They both appear on the 1841 in Cuckfield, SSX as being 'out of county' and on the 1851 as from Brasted, Kent. Unfortunatly Brasted does not appear on IGI and only BVRI for dates in 1812 onwards.

Can any one help me please

Kay
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 April 07 08:23 BST (UK) »
Brasted baptismal records for that period are held as paper transcripts at Sevenoaks library. I have Hall ancestry in that village, and do not recall the names you mentioned occurring in the records when I did my own research.
My 4x great grandfather Jeremiah Hall raised his family there, but was born in Edenbridge (circa 1789), a town about five miles to the south. The size of Edenbridge parish, of course, means the family could have lived much closer to Brasted, although I don't think the parishes share a border. Jeremiah had a sister, Jenny, baptised 1781, and a brother William, baptised 1787, again both in Edenbridge. I only discovered these facts about six months ago and have not had to time to research these subings further. The baptismal records give their father's name as Michael, but no mother's name was recorded.
Whereabouts are your Henry and William Hall on the 1851 census - I couldn't find them on a quick Ancestry search?
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 April 07 21:46 BST (UK) »
Waterhouse,

Many thanks for taking the time to reply.
William Hall is with his wife Mary and children at the Parish House, Cuckfield
HO 107 1642 103. I must admit that it doesn't look like Brasted where he was born but it is clearer on the 61 and 71


ANy help greatfilly received as it is a problem I have had for several years now

KAy
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 May 07 06:19 BST (UK) »
Hello Kay, yes it definitely says Brasted, so I will take another look at the transcripts the next time I'm in Sevenoaks. I live just outside the town, so it's no problem for me to do so. In my haste to reply, I was inaccurate: my ancestor Jeremiah Hall was born in Edenbridge and Lived in Limpsfield, Surrey; it was his daughter Harriet who made the move to Brasted.
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 May 07 20:13 BST (UK) »
Waterhouse,

many thanks for your offer.
I didn't give you Henry's details yesterday
1851 census gives him as 56 m Ag lab  living at Hammer Hill Cottage, Cuckfield, Sussex
I am only guessing that they are brothers as they both appear in Cuckfield about the same time - I could be quite wrong. but it is William that I am most interested in

Kay
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 May 07 08:46 BST (UK) »
Kay - visited the library yesterday and apologise for not having remembered that the transcripts start at 1813. However, an index prepared by the North West Kent Family History Society provides a names list  from around 1550 and there are no Hall baptisms later than 1769. The death transcripts show a James Hall, of the parish, buried in 1823, aged 68. Have you approached NWKFHS for help with your search? I'll keep an eye open for you in the course of my own research, and let you know should anything of interest arise.
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 May 07 18:38 BST (UK) »
Waterhouse,

Many thanks for your help.
All I can say is - what a mystery!
Why would two fella's about the same age, arrive in Cuckfield and both say they are from Brasted, Kent and yet, not appear in PR's for the Brasted area?

No, i haven't approached  NWKFHS but I will, Thank you for the suggestion.

Kay
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 May 07 20:09 BST (UK) »
Pleased to help, this has me intrigued now. Have you traced any details of either man's marriage? There's always a chance the records might give an extra clue. When I'm next at Sevenoaks Library I'll take a look at records for the neighbouring parishes - Westerham and Sundridge - to see if they are lurking there.
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Re: Brasted
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 May 07 11:25 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Yes, I have traced one marriage definatly and that is William Hall to Mary Longhurst in Albourne, Sussex 7 jan 1822 unfortunatly no further info is given.

I have looked for Henry's but I am not as sure that it s the correct one.
He married Mary Bugden that is for sure but it is not on IGI and I have checked the Sussex marriage index and only come up with a marriage to Mary Budging in Worth, sussex  1 may 1826. again no further info apart from botp

Henry and Mary started to produce children in 1829 in Cuckfield.
William and henry had thier first child 1822 Slaugham - a stonesthrow from Cuckfield

None of the info helps to find either henry and William's birth as far as I can see. It is just one of those brick walls for me [but I would love to take a brick out from the bottom and watch it slowly fall down - and it will one day]

Kay

Simmons/Simmonds -Sussex
Hall - Cuckfield, Sussex
Allen - Sussex
Glenister -Bucks
Allen - Bucks
Young - Bucks
Haynes - Clerkenwell/Shoreditch, Mddx & London
Cullen - Waterford, Ireland
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk