kate*k,
I agree wholeheartedly.
I shared my tree with a handful of cousins out of the goodness of my heart. I started from scratch and worked extremely hard to build this particular tree.
One of those cousins inputted everything into her genealogy program, including my notes, word for word. Then she gave it to a man who, along with his friend, is well known for putting everything into a massive online tree.
A different cousin pointed it out to me. I was so shocked because I didn't remember having sent any data to man #2. I emailed him and he said, no, man #1 gave me a copy of his file.
I contacted man #1 who thought I was a novice inquiring about a relative so he sent me a data file saying, Here's everything I have on your family, please send me info.
I was very upset that, not only did he obviously have my data (and I'm the only cousin who shelled out the money to buy certificates, etc., for every branch of a few different connecting trees, etc.), but he had all of my notes, verbatim. He had my speculation about various people who are deceased but who have living children, and about the scandals they hid in their lives, as well as information on living people. He also had some information that I later disproved.
He later said he had deleted the sensitive information but I don't know for certain that he did it.
This tree was intended for family eyes only and the cousins knew that. The cousin who gave my tree away betrayed my confidence and, in all probability, took credit for my work. I didn't have permission from any of my cousins to put anything about their families online or to distribute it to any Tom, Dick or Harry who asked.
Man #2 has me and my siblings, our recently deceased parents, etc., all in trees that he lets anyone see ONLY if they give him information on living people. (That's what he told me.)
I have information on living people: the family of the cousin who gave away my tree. But I won't do it because then I'd be stooping to her and man #2's level.
Man #2's defence? "It's all in the public domain." Except it wasn't until he put it there.
My problem? It was made public without my knowledge or consent.
Man #2's defence: If you share your tree to anyone else, it is theirs to do with it as they please.
The big picture: the internet. Thanks to the internet, almost everyone wants to put "their" tree online. If we give any information to anyone, it belongs to them. If they do not believe in asking first or, at the very least, giving credit where credit is due, they obviously don't care if we are upset or hurt at what really is plagiarism or, if that word doesn't fit, I think theft will also do nicely.
Man #2's comment: Well, missy, if there are egregious errors in your data and you are upset about them, it is up to you to send me the correct information.
My problem: Huh? I was pointing out the errors because they don't exist in the public domain and they came only from my tree and I'll be ****** if I'm going to feed you more information, you greedy, insensitive so-and-so. (He's not a Rootschatter.)
Public domain? Sure... that plus thousands of dollars and thousands of hours of hard slogging.
This public domain line is an easy cop-out for people who want easy trees and who don't respect the privacy and work of others.
If I choose to put my tree online, then, unfortunately, I have to accept that some people are going to do the copy-and-paste thing. But then it'll be my choice and I will accept that risk. I did have three different trees online a while ago until someone copied and pasted more than 200 names into their private online tree... and most of those people weren't related to him/her.
If someone doesn't understand my point of view or doesn't agree with it, that's fine. The least you can do is respect it. Respect my privacy. Respect my boundaries. Respect my right to have my own opinions about these issues. I'm not interested in arguing about it with someone who thinks it's perfectly alright to take credit for someone else's hard work or who thinks it's acceptable to pretend to be friends with a cousin long enough to get their tree and then never contact them again.
What are those "10 things I learned in kindergarten" again? Be nice, be polite, etc.
Posting someone else's data wholesale without permission is stealing and it's not nice. It's not the same as sharing.
Regards,
Josephine