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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #27 on: Monday 02 April 07 18:39 BST (UK) »
I cannot take any more intrigue,it's like one of those spy books where the good guys are bad the bad guys are bad and noboby tells the truth,I am only doing this as a favour,my head hurts ??? ???

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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #28 on: Monday 02 April 07 18:56 BST (UK) »
Theres a few researchers on this line at
http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/

It maybe worth your friend to check this site out.

Sue

ps: How does your friend know that Phoebe's younger
sister and brother went into Barnado's & sent abroad?
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« Reply #29 on: Monday 02 April 07 19:25 BST (UK) »
His mother was born around 1923 from the 1913 marriage of Pheobe and wait for George Jones  her memories come and go and as you may know in those days there were alot of family secrets,or children were told something by there parents and this was believed absolutely,in my family ,we lived with my old grandfather in a large house,in what was the old family front room filled with victorian dusty furniture was picture of a old grecian temple with clouds in the sky and the Sun had a big eye in it ,I as a kid of 6 went into that room and it scared me my mother said that as my Grandfather was welsh it was his Druids picture as they believed in the Sun,30 years later I found out that it was a Masonic picture,and do you know I explained this to my mothers sister who was in her 80's, after I had told her she said ,yes but that was my fathers Druids picture,anyway the family story is the two youngest went into Barnado's the boy went to Jersey and Lilian went to Canada,Barnado's do not like to give out info ,they have a sort of team but they don't do much,and the people who try to get info from them are very greatfull for any crumb that falls there way so when you mention Freedom of info act you tend to scare the horses and they don't reply,it's a shame I think Barnado's did a great job and were right but modern thinking is that they were wrong.
Brian.

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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 18:33 BST (UK) »
I think you are right  Charles Casbolt has led a very interesting life,marrys a Mary Betchetti in Newcastle and lives with her in 1891 census no kids at Cambridge,then leaves her between 1891 and 1893 and marry's Mary Ann Barker in Sept quart 1893 at Saffron Walden and has three children with her then lives with her elder sister Alice Barker in Cambridge and has at least four children with her and dies in 1906 aged 50,he must have left Mary Ann Barker not long before the 1901 census so she put down she was a widow in the census,in the 1901 census Charles Casbolts only wife who he married in Newcastle is alive and well living in Kettering and is a Charwoman,well thats seems to be the story behind the results we have from the census and certs,but I wanted to make sure by getting to Essex Records to look up the Mary Ann Barker marriage which will I believe have taken place at Littlebury,this will give me his fathers name and so we could then be certain,but the records are closed Friday and all of next week as well so I will have to wait.

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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:25 BST (UK) »
,in the 1901 census Charles Casbolts only wife who he married in Newcastle is alive and well living in Kettering and is a Charwoman,
Best Regards Brian.

I see on the 1901 census, Mary has two children,
Annie Marie 15, b Hampshire &  Joseph James 13, b Cambridge.
If this is the correct Mary, where were the children in 1891?   >:(
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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:33 BST (UK) »
Not sure I only looked at the 1901 census site I did not see the actual census,so thats two more children to add to the brood did Mary say she was married or a widow? and we have a Hampshire birth as well,makes a change from Essex or Cambridge.
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:39 BST (UK) »
Do you think we are straying a bit?..... :-\

1901 RG13/1447 Folio 69
Mary Casebolt Head 42 M b York          Charwoman
Annie Marie Casebolt Dau 15 b Aldershot, Hampshire     Shoe/Boot machinist
Joseph James Casebolt Son 13 b Cambridgeshire   Shoe finisher     
Prideman Sq., Kettering, Northamptonshire
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:40 BST (UK) »
No children on the 1891 census...

1891 census RG12/1284 Folio 11
Charles Casbolt Lodger 35 b Balsham, Cambridgeshire   Brewers labourer
Mary Casbolt Wife 32? b Yorkshire
Abbey Walk, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire

1871 census RG10/4753 Folio 14
Simon P Betchetti Head 25 b York, Yorkshire     Glass bottle maker
Maria Betchetti Wife 27 b York
Mary Betchetti Dau 12 b York
Dominie Betchetti Son 3 b York
Fishergate, Walmgate, York, Yorkshire

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:53 BST (UK) »
No I don't think we are straying,both the children are in the freebmd,and of course as he married Mary in 1878 we still have 6/7 years when they could have had more before he left,the children from the early years of this marriage would be old enough by the 1901 to be on there own,but apart from there being loads of half brothers and sisters ,It's not that important in the context of the Casbolt /Barker connection,its just a shame I cannot wrap this up until I can get to the records,thanks for you help.
Brian.