HOGGAN

[lrhoggan]

Hi folks.  Good to see there are so many Hoggans around.  I always thought we were part of a small family, but Rose has shared so much information with me that I now see I am part of an enormous family.

My father is Robert, son of Matthew and Christina Hoggan's (Donaldson) son Robert.  So I go all the way back to Robert Hoggan and Jean Horn, and there I have hit a barrier.

I recently found out that Robert Hoggan, who was married to Elizabeth McNeil, died in 1892 near Bellshill, Lanarkshire.  He was found dead in a railway siding, aged 36.

I'm trying to find out if we are related to all the other Hoggans mentioned in this thread, e.g. the ones from Fife, all the Army Hoggans, etc.  I also want to try to get further back via Robert Hoggan and Jean Horn.  Her father was David Horn and I believe she married an Agnes Wilson, but information further back on the Hoggan side seems sketchy.

[lrhoggan]

After seeing the note from AggieH, I remebered I had tracked down where Matthew is buried and took a couple of photos.  I've attached one with the detail.  I've another showing where it lies in the cemetery. 

As mentioned earlier, he is my great grandfather.  I'm his son Robert's grandson.

Hope they are of interest, and hopefully you can see them okay

[JAP]

 ...  I'm trying to find out if we are related to all the other Hoggans mentioned in this
thread, e.g. the ones from Fife,  ...  

Here's a snippet about a Fife HOGGAN in case anyone is interested.

A Catherine HOGGAN (HAGG or HAGGAN), age 77, was in the household of farmer John
PHILP (John is my children's GgggUncle) at Grievesland, Kelty, Beath, Fife in the 1841
census.  Catherine was the mother of John's second wife Ann COOPER.  Also in the
household were John's daughter Catherine PHILP from his first marriage, and his
daughters Ann and Elizabeth PHILP from the marriage to Ann COOPER.  Catherine
HOGGAN died the following year; the Fife Deaths CD lists HOGGIN (sic) Catherine,
age not known, abode Kelty Beath, buried at Beath on 10 May 1842.

From the IGI, it seems that Catherine's parents were:
Thomas HOGGAN and Anna KEELER who married 21 Aug 1761, Beath (LDS submission)
Thomas and Anna had (all extracted entries, all at Beath):
*Catharine HOGGAN bap 16 Aug 1762
*Isoble HOGGAN bap 23 Jan 1769 (mother's name given as Ann KELLER)
*Hellon HUGGAN (sic) b 9 Jul, bap 14 Jul 1771
*John HUGGAN (sic) bap 1 Mar 1778 (mother's name given as Ann KEILLER)

Cathrine (sic) HOGGAN married James COUPER (sic), 12 Nov 1788, Beath
(extracted).

Their daughter Ann, b 1791, married John PHILP in 1828, Dunfermline.

JAP

[bertie3100]

Hello from Australia!

My father was Alexander Anthony, son of Donald Anthony and Jeanie McMillan. Donald's parents were William Anthony and Jane Mackenzie. It was Donald's brother David who married Maggie Hoggan in 1904.

Best wishes, BA

[voodoo289]

Hi there everybody,

I have just entered Hoggan into my tree and hope someone can help with my Hoggan.

Got Matthew Hoggan born abt 1818 Denny, he married my 1st cousin 4 times removed Margaret Alexander on the 1 Oct 1869 Slamannan. Margaret Alexander was before married to a James Gray.
I believe that Matthew also was married before.

I found Matthew and margaret in the 1881 cenus with 2 children:

William Hoggan born 11 May 1870 Slamannan
Agnes Hoggan born about 1872 Shotts

Has anybody have anymore info on this family?

Best regards
karen

[apanderson]

Hi voodoo,

Welcome to Rootchat!

There's been a wee flurry of Hoggan activity over the last few days.

Can I suggest that you have a wee read through everything that's been posted (use the Rootschat Search) - you might find the answer to your query has already been posted. If not, then I'm sure all the Hoggan descendants will jump in and help you out.

Anne

P.S. If you don't get any joy, send me a personal message as although I'm not related or am researching this family, I've got tons of info.

[RoseCanada]

Hi, Voodoo,
....and Anne!
I have about $3000 worth, thank you SP, of information for you, if you are talking about Matthew Hay Hoggan b. May 24, 1819 Haggs, Stirling married to Margaret Noble Alexander.  Her parents were:  William Alexander and Elizabeth Turner.  Margaret was firstly married to James Gray.  I've found two children for them:  Robert and Margaret.
With Matthew Hoggan she had William Hoggan who married Morrison Brown, and Agnes Hoggan who married David Johnstone.  Feel free to contact me at (*)

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[voodoo289]

Hi Anne and Rose,

thanks ever so much for your help.

I already had the parents for Margaret Alexander as William and Isabella Turner. I knew that Margaret was married before to James Gray and that they had at least 11 children.
I have now downloaded Matthew's and Margaret's marriage cert. His parents were Robert Hoggan and Jean Horn. I believe that Matthew died in 1889 and Margaret in 1912.
Rose you said that WIlliam married a Morrison Brown and Agnes a David Johnstone, would you have any dates for there marriage, or any other info.

Once more thanks for your help.

Best regards
karen

[RoseCanada]

Margaret Alexander's death certificate:

1912 DEATHS in the Parish of Slamanan in the County of Stirlling
MARGARET HOGGAN
Widow of 1st James Gray, 2nd Matthew Hoggan
1912, January 15th 11h 0 m. PM, Burn Row female, age 84 years
Father: WILLIAM ALEXANDER, farm labourer, deceased
Mother: ELIZABETH ALEXANDER, MS TURNER, deceased,
COD: chronic bronchitis, hepatic conjestion, as certified by William Young, MBC?B
Informant:  Robert Gray, son, present Registered: 1912, January 15th at Slamannan Peter Gentleman, Asst. registrar

William Hoggan b. 1870 

1891, MARRIAGES in the Parish of Slamanan in the County of Stirling 1891 on the 30th day of December at Slamanan After Banns according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland
Signed: WILLIAM HOGGAN, coal miner, bachelor age 21 of Drumclair
Father; MATTHEW HOGGAN, coal miner, deceased
and
Signed: MORRISON BROWN, spinster, age 18 of Limerigg,
Father: THOMAS BROWN, coal miner
Mother: AGNES BROWN, MS SIMPSON Signed: Arch`d Reid, minister Witnesses: David Johnston, Agnes Brown
1891, December 31st at Slamanan, John Horne, registrar

***** 1913, DEATHS in the Parish of Slamanan in the County of Stirling WILLIAM HOGGAN, coal miner,
married to MORRISON BROWN
1913, August 12th 8 h. 30 m AM, Burn Row
male, age 43
Father: MATTHEW HOGGAN, coal miner, deceased Mother: MARGARET NOBLE HOGGAN, previously GRAY, MS ALEXANDER, deceased
COD: Cardiac disease, cariac dropsy, as certified by J. Campbell MB ChB Informant: William Morgan, brother-in-law, present
1913, August 12th at Slamannan, Peter Gentleman, asst. registrar

Agnes Hoggan b. 1874

1892, MARRIAGES in the Parish of Slamanan in the County of Stirling
1892, on the 6th day of April at Drumclair
After Banns According to the Forms of the ? Methodist Church
Signed: DAVID JOHNSTONE, coal miner, bachelor, 21, Limerigg
Father: MITCHELL JOHNSTONE, coal miner
Mother: JANET JOHNSTONE, MS McCARTNEY
Signed: Agnes Hoggon, spinster 18 of Drumclair
Father: MATTHEW HOGGAN, coal miner, deceased
Mother: MARGARET HOGGAN, MS ALEXANDER
Signed: Fred Inwood Witnesses: James Johnstone, Maggie Gray
1892, Apr. 9th at Slamanan, John Horne, reg.


1932, DEATHS in the District of Slamannan in the County of Stirling
AGNES JOHNSTONE married to DAVID JOHNSTONE, coal miner
1932, January 7th 4 h. 0 m. PM, Rosebank Cottage, Burn Row
58 years
Father: MATTHEW HOGGAN, coal miner, deceased
Mother: MARGARET NOBLE HOGGAN, previously GRAY MS ALEXANDER,deceased
COD:  Chronic myocarditis 18 months as certified by J. W. Arthur, MB Ch. B Informant: David Johnstone, widower, present
1932, January 8th at Slamannan, Elizabeth Gentles asst. registrar

I'd like to include Margaret and James Gray's children in my tree if you would be kind enough to share.  I'm not following the Alexander line, but am learning that family married family, and who knows where else down the line there would be connections.

Regards,
Rosemary