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John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« on: Monday 02 April 07 13:23 BST (UK) »
Looking for any info.  John Smith circa 1829 in little Gransden and Sarah was born circa 1834 in Abbotsley Cambs.  They were married in 1864.  He was married previously to Susan Elwood in 1852 who died between 1861 and 1864.  His mother possibly Elizabeth Smith,
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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 April 07 14:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Abiam

I think ive found John on 1841 and 1861 census.

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Brook Street, Little Gransden, Cambs.

Elizabeth Smith  60  pauper
James        ~      30  ag lab
John          ~       13     ~
William       ~      11

All born in county.

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Cottage, Little Gransden, Cambridge Cambs

John Smith   33  ag lab
Susan A ~    26
Mary A   ~     6
Samuel  ~     4

All born Little Gransden Cambs.

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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 April 07 14:44 BST (UK) »
Cambs FHS has an excellent website at
http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html

I can't see a baptism of either John or Sarah in the Baptism Index though.

I also wonder if Elizabeth is his mother as she seems a bit on the old side, as 60 in 1841 means 60-64. Similarly James age 30 could have been 34 making him old enough to be the father of John and William

If you check the Burial Index there's a Jane Smith age 34 buried in 1835 in Lt Gransden, which may, or may not, be significant.

If you buy his 1864 marriage cert you'll get both fathers' names, and you'll also be able to confirm that Sarah wasn't also a widow and thus her maiden name would be something other than Webb.

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David

Later - the reason I couldn't see Sarah in Cambs baptism index is, as it's just struck me, that Abbotsley was in Hunts - it wasn't until recently when Hunts was merged with Cambs and disappeared, that Abbotsley was in the county of Cambs. And as luck would have it Abbotsley is only Hunts parish register transcript that I have - the only Sarah Webb baptism that I can see was on 15 June 1834, dau of William & Susan, labourer. Also done on the same day were her brothers George and Joseph, so one or more of them look as though they were late baptisms. But you need to double check that the Sarah Webb who married John Smith wasn't a widow
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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:33 BST (UK) »
David,
Thank you for that.  It didn't occur to me having looked at a map that although they are so close they could be in another county!  I haven't had a great deal of success with CFHS but now I have some proper names and dates things might improve. I agree about Elizabeths age and 3 boys with such a gap.  It could be 3 generations.  I will continue......
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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:40 BST (UK) »
Alison.
Thank you for your reply!  I think you will see from David's message I was looking in the wrong place.  Thanks Abiam

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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:40 BST (UK) »
could this be him?
john smith baptised 25th dec 1826 little gransden cambs.parents samuel smith and jane
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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:48 BST (UK) »
Could well be I'll start with BVRI and then IGI,
wish me luck,
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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:51 BST (UK) »
i got that from the bivri it shows 2 siblings one of whom being a william.looks maybe like they were with grandmother perhaps?
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Re: John Smith and Sarah Ann Webb of Little Gransden and Abbotsley Cambs
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:54 BST (UK) »
looks like i could have been right.
samuel smith baptised 2nd july 1794 little gresden.parents joseph smith and elizabeth.
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