crawford in woodford

[Tina104]

Help!

I am trying to find information on William Crawford born about 1831 Middlesex I believe.  He married Jane Turner and they had 6 children. Alice, Emily, Maria, William, Frederick and my gt gt grandfather Arthur.  I know that they moved to Woodford between 1851 and 1861 as I have all the census returns from 1861 onwards, but as for before that I can't find anything.

Any help anyone can give me would be much appreciated. 

Thanks Tina.

[lizdb]

Do you know d-o-b's of children or date of marriage? By finding where they took place we may get a clue as to when and where they from.
How do you know they moved to  Woodford 1851-61?

[Tina104]

I only know that Arthur was born on 10th October 1881.  J have no other information.  All other info I have got from the census.

[lizdb]

So, what dates and places of birth do  the censuses give for the children?

[cep]

1861 Islington, London   RG9 142 87 p16

1 Prince Edward Street
William Turner, head, mar, 66, Lab, b. Stanstead, Essex
Maria Turner, wife, mar, 57, Charwoman, b. Roydon, Essex
Jane Turner, dau, unm, 19, Charwoman, b. Stoke Newington

Other Turners next door


1871 Islington, London   RG10 307 12 p22

1 Prince Edward Street
William Crawford, head, mar, 41, Stoker at Gas Works, b. Southall, Middx
Jane Crawford, wife, mar, 29, b. Stoke Newington
Alice Crawford, dau, 9, Scholar, b. Islington
Emily J Crawford, dau, 2, Scholar, b. Islington
Maria Crawford, dau, 6mo, b. Islington

Family not found 1881

1891 William says b. Hillingdon, Middx  ............ ??


1841 Hillingdon, Middlesex   HO107 656/3 11 p3

Peel? Heath
William Crawford, 45, Lab
William Crawford, 11
Hannah Crawford, 19

none b. in County


1851 Hayes, Middlesex   HO107 1697 535 p11

Botwell
William Crawford, head, mar?, 56, Brickfield Lab, b. Richmond, Surrey
C Barefoot, -, wid, 46, b. Acton, Middx


1861 Heston, Middlesex   RG9 773 64 p12

Tildesley Cottages, Southall Green
William Crawford, head, mar, 63, Brickmakers Lab, b. Richmond, Surrey
Charlotte Crawford, wife, mar, 61, b. Hillingdon, Middx
Charles Crawford, grandson, 8, Scholar, b. Hayes, Middx


IGI Extracted Record

Batch C013343

William Henry Crawford
Bap. 6 May, 1795, Saint Mary Magdalen, Richmond, Surrey
Parents: John Crawford, Hannah


Regards   CP

[RENRUTEKIM]

Hi Tina

This is an old thread so this is a bit of a long shot. You were researching the Crawford family and one name in particular stood out for me. Jane Crawford, nee Turner appeared on the 1861 census in Islington. With other Turners next door. Now I think that they were in the same house (the census record shows the same street number) and bearing in mind their birthplaces I believe those other Turners (my direct ancestors) could be related. I would particularly like to know if you have any information about Jane's parents - who from the census record would appear to be William and Maria Turner.

Mike Turner

[RENRUTEKIM]

Hi Tina

I know this is an old message but Jane Turner is my ancestor. I struggled to find a marriage for William and Jane but have found one in Carlisle. Did they run away to get married?

Crawford    William    Carlisle    10b    532
Turner    Jane         Carlisle    10b   532

There is no trace of any other marriage between William Crawford and Jane Turner at around the right time.

Best wishes

Mike

[Valda]

Hi Mike


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Regards

Valda
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[Valda]

Hi

The earlier censuses clearly show the couple married well before the start of civil registration (probably in the early 1820s) likeliest counties Essex or Hertfordshire.

1851 census HO107 1502 folio 368
1 Prince Edward Street Islington
William Turner 56 Head Married Lab Ag Hoddesdon Herts
Maria Turner 46 Wife Married Roydon Essex
Charles Turner 22 Son Roydon Essex
Lydia Turner 13 Daughter Cheshunt Herts
John Turner 11 Son Cheshunt Herts
Jane Turner 9 Daughter Stoke Newington Middlesex
plus 2 lodgers


1841 census HO107 669/5
Brickfields Cottages Stoke Newington
William Turner 34 Labourer
Maria Turner 38
James Turner 16
Charles Turner 13
Henry Turner 11
Caroline Turner 7
Lydia Turner 4
John Turner 2
all born out of county

Essex is relatively poorly covered by the International Genealogy Index/Family Search - not coverage of Roydon for instance and many other parishes. Have you tried requesting a search from the Essex marriage index?

http://www.sturnidae.com/Essex/Marriages.htm


Regards

Valda