I seek them here, there & maybe Tynemouth!

[Mair]

Seeking family/ies of GLAISTER whose son ROBERT married DOROTHY GOFTON (?) in the 1930's.

Information is very sketchy to say the least but marriage may have taken place in Tynemouth area.  Any info appreciated - especially if the details can be tracked back to the census when records are easier for me to access.

I have no idea on occupation age or anything else but the family of GLAISTER may have moved from Cumberland when the mining got scarce as of course many did.

Jude

[TracyW]

Hello Jude

Have you any other Glaister family names? Or know where in Cumberland they came from?

There's one family in Tynemouth in 1901 who all came from Cumberland and who are miners:

Upper Elsdon St, Tynemouth
George Glaister, 58, Widwr, Coal miner hewer, Cumberland Wigton
John, 24, Coal miner hewer, Parton
George, 24, Coal miner hewer, Aspeltican?
Isaac, 23, Coal miner hewer, Parton
Martha, 20, Parton
Thomas, 18, Parton
Thompson, 16, Parton
Dalzell, 13, Lower Hurtington
Rebecca, 10, Lower Hurtington

Regards
Tracy

[janmoore]

Robert Glaister m. Dorothy Gofton Tynemouth reg district 10b 377
Dec Q 1934

[Michael Dixon]

Mick the Pedantic has to stick his neb in here.

Although on C1901 the family are recorded as living "within" the Municipal Borough, and the Parliamentary Borough of Tynemouth, they were not living in the town or the township of Tynemouth.

Upper Elsdon St was in the civil parish (formerly called a "township" ) of Chirton... and to confuse more, enumerator calls this within town of North Shields.

( Even the parish church of Tynemouth, Holy Trinity, lay not in Tynemouth, but in North Shields.)

The 1930 marriage thrown in by Janmoore,  registered with Tynemouth (Registration District) .... is likely to have taken place in North Shields town, rather than Tynemouth town.

Aspatria was a mining community in west Cumberland, lying between Maryport on the coast and Wigton. (next stop Carlisle ! )

Going south along the coast from Maryport lay Workington then Whitehaven. Parton was a couple of miles noth of Whitehaven. Harrington lay on southern outskirt of Workington.


Michael Dixon

[Mair]

Thanks for all the info - basically this is now as much as I know! 

Tracy - I know of no other names, places absolutely nothing.

Jan - looks like the family story was right and that I may well have to call for the certificate to see if it links to the family Tracy found.

Mike - if you have been pedantic you have also succeeded in totally confusing me!  Where does one place start and the other end - or vice versa of course?

Many thanks again

Jude

[Michael Dixon]

Jude,

A while ago I was taking so long to find folk and resolve queries and went up many time-consuming false trails.
Then I realised that there were important differences between naming and describing places then and now. And usually my knowledge of today hindered, rather than helped me.

Without wanting to get into too much detail, the division or description of land and places in 17 and 1800s was vastly different to today.

The hierarchy of places then was
Country
County
Parish
Township *( a sub-division of a parish)
Community ( i.e. town, village, hamlet)
Street, Row etc ( numbered or not)

(*"Township" is an unfortunate term for us mods... it does not apply to "towns", in fact many Townships contained NO towns)

The Parish of Tynemouth, in the county of Northumberland, was made up of the seven Townships of ........
Whitley (now known as Whitley Bay),
Cullercoats,
Preston,
Murton,
North Shields
Chirton and
Tynemouth .

If we take, say, Bath Terrace, this is what it's "address" would have been in 1800s.

 "Bath Terrace,   
 Tynemouth town,     
 Tynemouth township,     
 Tynemouth Parish,
 County of Northumberland"

The Glaister's address...
"Upper Elsdon St
 Chirton township
Tynemouth Parish
Northumberland"

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You may have heard or read of other researchers bemoaning the fact that their folk "changed" their birthplaces over different censuses.... but they didn't... the differences were down mainly to the inconsistency of some census enumerators who sometimes chose to record  "parish of birth", or "birth place/town/village"


In fact the same happened to the Glaister children when their births  were recorded on Cumberland censuses.
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( A bit like the question... "Were you born in New York or New York ? )
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Maybe I should never have started this LOL


There are old maps that show county, parish and township boundaries, but they are little use today.


Michael Dixon
Front Street
Bebside Colliery Village
Cowpen Township
Horton Parish
Northumberland

[Mair]

Arr

Now I see...

ouch! who put that there .....

Jude

[Michael Dixon]

fibber !



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