Help needed please, Scotland 1871

[Maddie]

Hi

Could someone help me with a dilemma please. Would it be possible to check the 1871 Scotland for a Michael Giblin in Edinburgh.

He was born c1852 in Ireland & his father was James Giblin a farm servant per Michaels marriage in 1874.

I thought I had found him & downloaded the census from S/P only to find that this chaps father was a John Giblin, paper mill worker.

Has any one come across mistakes on the marriage lines, could the wrong fathers name have been entered.

Any ideas are welcome.

Maddie

[trish251]

Hi Maddie

The only one that is instantly seen is the same as yours but John Giblin is listed as 62
with children 22 18 and 16. I'm wondering if perhaps he is the grandfather of any of them? (But they do say son son and daughter).

Were they in Scotland in 1861?

Trish

[Maddie]

Hi Trish

Oh, now that's a thought, I hadn't consider a grandfather.

I couldn't see them in the 1861 but I might have missed them. Other info that I have is that Michael's father "James" was the only one who was still alive at the time of his marriage in 74 & that his mothers name was Ann Giblin nee Conway.

I did spot a death for an Ann Giblin/Conway in 1862, Duddington, on S/P but didn't download it as I wasn't sure.

I'm grateful for any ideas & help.

Maddie

[trish251]

I didn't see any possibles at a glance in 1851 - and as you've no doubt seen, there was no mother with this family in 1861, so perhaps there is another group badly transcribed. Is it possible they didn't arrive in Scotland until after 1861?

Trish

[Maddie]

Hi Trish

Unfortunately I have no idea when they arrived in Scotland & it's quite possible it was after 61. I know there is no mother on the census in 71 but I didn't know she wasn't there in 61 either.

Strange thing is the Michael on the 71 with the "father" John is a carpenters apprentice & on his marriage he is a joiner journeyman the same as on the 81.

Michael's first son was also named John.

Thanks again for your help, I shall keep the grandfather idea in mind.

Maddie

[trish251]

Hi Trish

Unfortunately I have no idea when they arrived in Scotland & it's quite possible it was after 61. I know there is no mother on the census in 71 but I didn't know she wasn't there in 61 either.

Forgive me, I have got confused with 61/71 - I haven't found them in 61. The father could well have been working on a farm in 1874, but the name change from James to John does seem to indicate a different person.

Do you have Michael in 1891. I was just looking at the children. First daughter is Jane Anne. First son John, second son James. Could there be confusion with his father-in-law being James, rather than his father? (Just thinking aloud here - probably not very useful). I was hoping to find some parents/inlaws on the later census, but no joy.

I just found 1901 (Gibbin) - living with them is sister Ann aged 55 - in 1871 Ann was listed as 22 I think, so close. If you don't have the details, let me know (Micael is still a Joiner Journeyman)

Trish

[Maddie]

Hi again Trish

I did wonder if you had the 61 & 71 confused, no problem.

I have got the info for 91 & yes the first 3 children do seem to match the parents names.

Mary Giblins parents were Jane nee Johnston & James Hoey a gardener, both deceased at the time of marriage. ( Another huge brick wall )

Michael's parents were Ann nee Conway & "James". Ann being deceased.

I don't have the 1901 info & that sounds interesting. The fact that there is a sister Ann does correspond with the 1871. It's certainly looking as if there is a mistake on the marriage lines.

It doesn't help with them being Irish born, does it, I guess I'm going to have to try & find Michael's birth record to be sure of his parentage.

I'm not having a lot of success with these folks with the Irish & Scottish connections, not to mention the fact that Mary Giblin was born in Georgia USA & appeared in Edinburgh in 71 from knowhere without parents.

I would appreciate the 1901 details if you don't mind.

Thanks again for your help.

Maddie

[MonicaL]

Hi Maddie

This looks like mother Ann's DC on SP:

1862   GIBLIN   ANN       CONWAY  U   DUDDINGSTON LANDWARD   EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN   684/02 0015

Maybe another source to verify husband/father's name.

Regards.

Monica 

Added: I've just re-read and seen that you are aware of this entry. It's the only one coming up with those names, could well be worth a look at least to discount it. The age is showing as 'u' unrecorded but will show on the actual image.

[Maddie]

Hi Monica

Thank you, yes, I had spotted that death but as I'm new to S/P & it seemed to be running away with my credits I decided to hang on & try to get more conformation.

Now that you have have also picked it as likely I will download it & fingers crossed it's the correct lady.

Thanks again for your help.

Regards
Maddie