Long lost aunt

[Brian H]

Dear Fellow Rootschatters,

I am seeking information on my aunt, Jessica DYER (b.1906), a spinster who passed away in August, 1991, aged 85 years in Thanet, Kent.

I know she lived in Ruskin Avenue, Manor Park, East Ham at least until 1951 when her mother died.

As far as I know she had siblings named Dorothy (b.1895) (my mother who came to Australia in the 1920s), Lavinia (b.1903), Winifred, Edward, Louisa (b.1900), Charles (b.1888/9) and Elizabeth (b.1886/7).
Not sure of dates for Winifred and Edward).

I have only recently found out this information and would appreciate any help that anyone can give me in finding my long lost relatives.

Brian H.

[Romilly]

Hi Brian,

I have Dyers in London in my family, but mine came to London from East Grinstead, Sussex.

Do you know where yours originated from?

Best Wishes, Romilly.

[Valda]

Jessica's death registration placing her birth in the first quarter of 1906

Jessica Dyer 17 Jan 1906 Aug 1991 85  Thanet  Kent 

and her birth registration in London

Births Mar 1906 
Dyer  Jessica    Islington  1b 167

Was your mother younger or older than Jessica. Would her birth have been before the 1901 census?

Regards

Valda

[casalguidi]

Hi Brian

I believe Thanet District Council to be rather courteous in supplying details of burials and cremations from their burial/grave/cremation registers and possibly even grave purchase registers if applicable:

http://www.thanet.gov.uk/community__living/deaths,_funerals__cremations.aspx

Thanet Crematorium & Cemeteries
Manston Road
Margate
CT9 4LY
Tel: 01843 224492
Fax: 01843 292218
email is on the page via the above link

Casalguidi

[Brian H]

Hello Fellow RootsChatters,

Thank you so far to Romilly, Valda & Casalguidi for your responses.

Casalguidi I will certainly give the Thanet District Council a go regarding burials etc.

I have Dyers in London in my family, but mine came to London from East Grinstead, Sussex.
Do you know where yours originated from?

Hello Romilly,
Regarding the origins of the DYERs (prior to London - 1860), nothing definite.  We are not sure where they originated from.

......Was your mother younger or older than Jessica. Would her birth have been before the 1901 census?

Hello Valda,
In answer to your question, my mother Dorothy was (b.1895) in  London.
Dorothy's mother, Louisa married Charles DYER in 1899.

Elizabeth and Charles, were the Issue of Charles from a former marriage.

*  PLEASE NOTE - Original Posting has been revised to include known dates.
 
Thanking You,
Brian H.

[Necromancer]

Hi Brian - so are you looking to find the descendants of your mothers siblings, or to follow the family back to earlier census years ?

Looks like Charles Dyer's 1st wife was Kate Jessie E Brown..

Marriages Sep 1886   
 
BROWN  Kate Jessie E    Pancras  Vol 1b Page 283   
DYER  Charles     do do do

[Valda]

1901 census RG13 144 folio 95
3 Little George Street St Pancras  London 
Charles Dyer 38  Battersea, London, Head Married Stage carpenter
Louisa Dyer  27  St Giles, London, Wife Married
Eliz Dyer 14 St Giles, London,  Daughter   
Charles Dyer 12 Harringay, Middlesex, Son
Dorothy Dyer  6  St Giles, London,  Daughter 
Louisa Dyer  1  St Pancras, London, Daughter

Births Mar 1900 
Dyer  Louisa     Pancras  1b 87

Marriages Mar 1899 
Dyer  Charles     Pancras  1b 162   
Slade  Louisa Lavinia D     Pancras  1b 162

Births Mar 1895   
Slade  Dorothy     St. Giles  1b 648

1891 census RG12 117 folio
112 Robert Street Pancras
Charles Dyer 28 Battersea, London, Head Married Upholster's Porter
Kate J Dyer 22 St Pancras, London,  Wife Married
Elizabeth K Dyer 4 St Giles, London, Daughter 
Charles Dyer 2 Wood Green, London, Son 
Clara Dyer 6mths St Pancras, London,  Daughter 
Next household same address
Charles Dyer 49 Wandsworth, Surrey,  Head Married Upholsters Clerk
Elizabeth Dyer 49 Truro, Cornwall,  Wife Married Shopkeeper
Agnes G Dyer 24 Battersea, Surrey,  Daughter  Upholsters  ? maker
Ernest G Dyer 19 Battersea Surrey, Son French polisher
Walter A Dyer 14 St Pancras Middlesex, Son Upholsters Apprentice
Thomas J Dyer 12 St Pancras Middlesex, Son
Sidney L Dyer 5 St Pancras Middlesex, Son

Births Dec 1890
Dyer  Clara     Pancras  1b 10
Deaths Mar 1892 
Dyer  Clara  1  Pancras  1b 53

Births Dec 1888   
DYER  Charles     Edmonton  3a 325

Births Mar 1887 
DYER  Elizabeth Kate     St. Giles  1b 627

Deaths Mar 1898   
Dyer  Kate Jessie E  29  Pancras  1b 3

Regards

Valda

[Brian H]

Hello Newfy,

Thank you for your interest in my Topic.
In answer to your question, yes I am looking for the descendants of my mother's siblings (both step & half).

We will trace further back, when we have filled in the gaps.

........Looks like Charles Dyer's 1st wife was Kate Jessie E Brown..
Marriages Sep 1886   
BROWN  Kate Jessie E    Pancras  Vol 1b Page 283   
DYER  Charles     do do do

Yes I have come across this marriage previously, thinking that this might be our Charles DYER.
Also found a birth for an Elizabeth Kate DYER (b1887) St. Giles, we assume this would be their daughter.

Previously we have found the family on the 1901 Census.
We are currently awaiting the 1911 Census.

Thanks for your help,
Brian H.

[Brian H]

Hello Valda,

Thank you very much for your thorough and informative reply.  Very interesting about the 1891 Census, this confirms what we came across in the 1901 Census.

.........1891 census RG12 117 folio
112 Robert Street Pancras
Charles Dyer 28 Battersea, London, Head Married Upholster's Porter
Kate J Dyer 22 St Pancras, London,  Wife Married
Elizabeth K Dyer 4 St Giles, London, Daughter 
Charles Dyer 2 Wood Green, London, Son 
Clara Dyer 6mths St Pancras, London,  Daughter 
Next household same address
Charles Dyer 49 Wandsworth, Surrey,  Head Married Upholsters Clerk
Elizabeth Dyer 49 Truro, Cornwall,  Wife Married Shopkeeper
Agnes G Dyer 24 Battersea, Surrey,  Daughter  Upholsters  ? maker
Ernest G Dyer 19 Battersea Surrey, Son French polisher
Walter A Dyer 14 St Pancras Middlesex, Son Upholsters Apprentice
Thomas J Dyer 12 St Pancras Middlesex, Son
Sidney L Dyer 5 St Pancras Middlesex, Son

Births Dec 1890
Dyer  Clara     Pancras  1b 10
Deaths Mar 1892 
Dyer  Clara  1  Pancras  1b 53

Births Dec 1888   
DYER  Charles     Edmonton  3a 325

Births Mar 1887 
DYER  Elizabeth Kate     St. Giles  1b 627

Deaths Mar 1898   
Dyer  Kate Jessie E  29  Pancras  1b 3.......

I am very excited about the information you have given me.

It is nearly 11.00pm here in Australia, I will print it out and sleep on it.

I will be in touch, thanking you,
Brian H.