not sure where to post this

[jody 101]

I am trying to find information on Thomas Holland Whitehair. I believe he was born in England about 1825, Married in Victoria, Australia to Eliza Gill in 1855 and died in Parramatta, Australia in 1863. The problem is i can't find the birth or death records for him... a Thomas Holland Whitehair is buried in Paramatta but in 1875.

From the marriage 4 children were born Margaret Mary Ann 1856
                                                                Thomas H G            1859
                                                                Katherine Gill          1861
                                                                Maria Louisa           1862
all born in Victoria.In 1862 Eliza and the children returned to England on board the Blue Jacket, and Thomas was supposed to follow after the work he was doing had finished but sadly he died before this. Apparently he was an engineer who assisted/designed Melbourne's water supply.
Thomas arrived in Aust in 1854 on board the Birmingham. Eliza arrived in Aust in 1855 on board the whitestar.

any information greatfully accepted

Jody(Thomas Holland was my grandparents grandfather)

[yonderpeasant]

will post this 1871 as it will give people some sort of indication of county of origin although you may well have it already
Devon Lamerton RG10/2148/35/3
Ottery
Fitz Hy Gill                 head unm 37 farmer of 137 acres employing 3 men b.Devon Tavistock

Eliza Whitehair            sister    mar 45 housekeeper                                  b.Devon Tavistock
Thomas H.G Whitehair nephew       12                   b.Victoria Australia
Catherine G      do         niece        10                             do
Maria L              do         niece        8                              do
Harriet Creber               serv     un   27 general serv domestic b.Devon Lifton
Alfred Witherbridge       sesrv    un   17 Farm serv indoors      b.Devon Tavistock

[yonderpeasant]

here is Eliza luckily Fitz is easy to trace
1841 HO107/249 fol 8 p12
Devon Tavistock
Crowndale
John Gill 50 yeoman Y
Catherine do 50 N
John         do 21 yeoman Y
Thomas    do 19 Y
Charles    do  12 Y
Eliza        do   10  Y
Fitz henry do   7  Y

still in England in 1851
Devon Tavistock HO107 /1883/320/4
Crowndale
John Gill head wid 62 farmer of 434 acres employing 6 labourers
John R   son    U 31 farmers son
Thomas R son  U 29 surveyor and auctioneer
Maria T  daur   U 24 farmers daughter
Eliza        daur  U 20  do
Fitz H       son   U 17 farmers son
all born Devon Tavistock
servants
Dinah Collacott
Elizabeth Jeffrey
Thomas Kent
James Siemons
John Bath

[yonderpeasant]

does the marriage cert come up with a fathers name at all.I am pcking up Thomas son of Joseph a Blacksmith  and mother Mary in Cornwall.Do you know where the Holland in his name came from?

[jody 101]

Thankyou for all of those census results the only one i had was 1881 which listed Eliza as a widow but that 1871 shows her as being married so maybe it is him in Parramatta cemetry. Maybe they separated and she went home easier to say he was following later than admit marriage breakup. She doesn't appear o have remarried tho so the other version could be true too the job just lasted a lot longer than planned.
I dont have the marriage cert yet so not sure if his parents will be listed. Might not be because he was over 30 at the time.As to the Holland that is my next task to find where that comes from.
 When Margaret had children the 4 boys were given Whitehair as their 2nd name. 
Catherine had no children and i am not sure about the other two.
 Jody

[yonderpeasant]

the missing Margaret is boarding in worcestershire in1871  there is an Alice Holland daughter of a magistrate amongst the pupils boarding there also but I am not picking up any link.It is a school for the well heeled by the look of it.
Maybe Mary was missing her comfortable life and decided to return to her family.It might not have been easy for her in Australia and probably quite lonely.

Worcs Upton Warren 1871     RG10/3070/95/9
Abberley house
Mary Jones head W governess
Maigeret whitehair boader 14  pupil b.Melbourne Australia

[jody 101]

I found these names in the deaths and was wondering if it is possible to do a 1841 census search to find out if they are sibling or parent of T.H.W
     
Charles Holland Whitehair         1846    Jan-Feb-Mar    Droitwich    Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire    
Margaret Holland Whitehair         1852    Jul-Aug-Sep    Droitwich    Hereford and Worcestershire

Jessie Holland Cole    abt 1829    1893    Oct-Nov-Dec    Bromsgrove    Hereford and Worcester, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Jessy Holland Whitehair married George Cole  22 SEP 1870 Upton Warren, Worcester, England.  I know this is hopefull but maybe I am on the right track.
Jody

[yonderpeasant]

1841 Worcester Claines HO107/1200 fol2/60 p9
Merryman lodge

Margaret Whitehair 40 Ind
Margaret Whitehair 20
Jessy Whitehair  11 (female)
all born out of county

[yonderpeasant]

1851 Worcester Claines Droitwich  Dodderhill
 HO107/2046/448/18
Wichbold
Margaret Whitehair head wid 58 Landed properties b.Gloucester City
Margaret  Hol Whitehair daur U  30  b.Devonshire Whitchurch
Henry   do                     son   U 23   b.do
Jessie H                        daur     12   b. do
Sarah Norman serv U  house servant b.Herefordshire Bromyard