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Tannaghmore Antrim
« on: Monday 21 May 07 10:05 BST (UK) »
Hi there

From the 1881 census of England an Alice Ashton was born at Tannaghmore Antrim about 1874. Her Mother Martha was Irish and Father Richard Ashton was English. Is there any way I might find a baptism? The other Ashton children were baptised C of E. Thank you for any help. Also is there a register of deaths online for Ireland for around this time.

Many thanks
Heather
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Re: Tannaghmore Antrim
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 10:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Heather,

You will find a number of leads here:

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http://www.moonrakers.org.uk/individuals.asp

"bc1822 Pewsey

married Martha Williams
(can't locate marriage - may be Ireland)

last child Alice M Ashton born c1874 Thannaghmore Antrim.

Martha was a widow on the 1881 census.

Richard was a Chelsea Pensioner.
He served for more than 20 years in the 54th Regiment of Foot. "

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[Presumably Pewsey is the one in Wiltshire, about 15 mies North of Newbury.]


There are a number of Tannaghmore townlands in Ulster.  The one in Co. Antrim lies within the parish of Drummaul, a few miles North-West of Randalstown.

Richard might have become a clergyman.
[A common career path after soldiering.]

I know of a Rev. William Fortescue GORMAN who served in the CoI there during the 19thC.


James HAMILTON, heir to the Lords Claneboye and  Clanbrassil, had an estate at Neilsbrook nearby (albeit in the 17thC), which might explain the presence of a church / garrison there.

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Re: Tannaghmore Antrim
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 May 07 17:29 BST (UK) »
Hiya Heather,

It may be necessary to look at the records of several churches to find the one in which Alice Ashton was baptised. It's possible that she was baptised in the CofI church in Randalstown in the Parish of Drummaul which is described in Lewis's "Topographical Dictionary of Ireland." This book was published in 1837. A description of Drummaul appears on a page of the website of Dr. Jane Lyons of Dublin, 'From Ireland' ©

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Re: Tannaghmore Antrim
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 May 07 11:23 BST (UK) »
Chris and John

Many thanks to you both for the information. That is the correct family, Martha Williams was previously Martha Moor, I can not find either marriage, so possibly both could have been in Ireland. According to one of the census she was born about 1832 in Antrim.

I think it is possible that Richard Ashton may have died in Ireland bet 1871 and 1881. Thank you for the web link which I will have a good look at.

Regards Heather
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Re: Tannaghmore Antrim
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 June 07 14:47 BST (UK) »
Heather,

I had a wee firtle about for you.

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There are plenty (!) of documents mentioning men named RA in the UK National Archives.

However none threw up an "old soldier" pensioner, supported by the Chelsea Hospital.

[He would have qualified for help/discharge due either to long service (21+ years) or through being declared unfit to serve further, perhaps because of injury on active service or decrepitude i.e. "worn out"!]

Ref: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Document WO 97/1554 covers the discharges of men with surnames beginning Ada-Exo for the 54th Foot, during 1855-1872.  It will be a large box full of groups of papers, one for each man.

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A search of the UGHG (was UHF) databases proved more fruitful.

[It appears to have got its general search capability operational once again, at last.]


They list an entry for a "Richard ASHTON",
in the Irish Will Calendars of 1858-1878.

[So, a will made by such a named person was "proved" in Ireland.
 If it was your RA, then he must have died before 1879.]


Sadly, as you are probably aware, almost all of the Irish Wills went up in smoke in the Four Courts building in Dublin in the early 1920s, leaving only the indexes (the calendars) and some memorials in the Registry of Deeds.

However, for Northern counties especially, there is a ray of hope.
A record agent, named Tenison GROVES, wrote up summary extracts from many of the wills made in Ulster.

These are available for consultation at PRONI in Belfast.


Also on 54 LDS microfilms.

Groves, Tenison  (Main Author)

Genealogical collection of muster rolls, householders, wills, deeds, parish registers

Families Armstrong-Ball p. 502-1328

FHL BRITISH Film 258472

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The UGHG also have a research file on a Richard ASHTON.

This is work that someone commissioned them to perform.
You could try requesting a copy.

However you may draw a blank.
 Currently they "indicate the existence of such reports only
  in order to make customers aware of what is possible"!

[They are trying to attract funding for work to enable
 such reports to be accessed online - presumably for a fee.]

Ref: www.ancestryireland.com

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The CoI building in Randalstown is situated on the edge of the town.
[With the unusually-shaped "Oval" edifice of the "Old" Pb congregation's Meeting House located immediately opposite.]

These lie to the West of the town, so may be (just) inside the townland of Tannaghmore.

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Lord O'NEILL was Colonel of the Antrim Regiment of Militia.
[This would have been formed during "Volunteer" times (early 1780s) to protect the land while the American war  was active (1774-1783), then reformed once again when the Napleonic wars broke out in 1793.]

He built a parade ground and barracks in 1816.
These buildings were on the East side of Randalstown.

The barracks were atypical, looking more like a row of houses.
Its accomodation was designed for his staff to live in, together with their families, after the force was disembodied following the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815.

Some of these facilities were still in a reasonable state of repair in the 1830s, and may have been in use still 40 years later.

Perhaps RA was stationed in Ulster during his soldiering career, meeting his wife there, requesting later that his name be put down to be allocated one of the houses in his old age.


Perhaps the idea was to be near to his wife's family homelands.

[Given the fixed location of the barracks, these may not necessarily have been conveniently closeby.]


Ref:  Parish of Drummaul (pps 33-93), especially P. 43, in ...

ORDNANCE SURVEY
MEMOIRS OF IRELAND
PARISHES OF COUNTY ANTRIM VI
1830, 1833, 1835-38
South-West Antrim

Vol. 19
1993
Angelique Day & Patrick McWilliams eds.
Institute of Irish Studies, QUB

ISBN 0 85389 458 2 ppb  ~£8.75

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There were a lot of MOOREs about!
All the best with your researches.

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EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]