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Emily HOLES, Lizzie HOLES and Sidney RANDALL
« on: Tuesday 22 May 07 19:40 BST (UK) »
Can anyone solve a mystery. I seem to have 2 women in the same family who married the same man.

It looks as if Emily Ellen Holes b 1877 Luton, Bedforshire m Sidney Randall in 1911.
Then,
he seems to have married Lizzie Holes in 1918. She was born in 1884.

It would suggest that Emily may have died.

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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 19:59 BST (UK) »
You can search the death indexes at Ancestry.co.uk for free I think.
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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 20:04 BST (UK) »
It was legal to marry your deceased wife's sister from 1907

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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 21:17 BST (UK) »
Yes, the death indexes can be searched for free at
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx

but I have just gone through deaths 1911 - 1918 and could find no Emily E Randall of the right sort of age.

So -are you sure it is the same Sidney Randall as groom at each marriage?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 22:10 BST (UK) »
that's kind of you liz - I suppose if you get the certificates and check the fathers it would help - he wouldn't have committed bigamy surely  :-\ and it would be such a coincidence to both marry men of the same name.
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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 22:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you. No - I am not sure. He crops up on each of the marriages. he is definitely the spouse in the 1918 marriage but he is on the 1911 list for Emily - unless they were friends and he got married on the same day as her but it is a coincidence.

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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 22:57 BST (UK) »
yes I saw that and wondered the same thing too- that could be possible! Looks like certificates... you could look for a death for Ethel Randall who would be the other wife.
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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 23:04 BST (UK) »
Could be a clue:
Bedfordshire 1901 census

Sidney Randall b 1889 Seagrave living Limbury (Luton)
Sidney Randall b 1881 Luton - living Luton
Sydney Randall b 1888 b Toddington living Aspley Guise
Sydney Randall b 1878 b Limbury living Limbury
Syndey C Randall b 1884 Biggleswade livign Biggleswade.

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Re: Emily Holes, Lizzie Holes and Sidney Randall
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 May 07 13:16 BST (UK) »
Plenty of them around then!

It could be a case of cousins marrying cousins, or something like that
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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