MORGAN Trevethin

[Arranroots]

I always knew this would be tricky, but I am failing to find my MORGAN family in 1871 or 1891 census or elsewhere.  They are (birth dates approximate in most cases)   

John b 1846 Trevethin (Head)
Caroline b 1847 (wife) and children:
George Samuel b 2.1.1870 Trevethin
David J b 1872 Trevethin
Alfred James b 1874 Trevethin
Phoebe (Feby) Ann b 1874 Trevethin
Ed Albert b 1878 Trevethin
Tom b 1800 Llantarnam (twin birth??)
Ebenezer b 1883 Llantarnam
William b 188?
Caroline b 1887
Edwin C b 1889 Gwrhay
Mary Jane b 1892 Gwrhay

Are 1871/ 1891 records available?  Any suggestions where else I could look to pursue this? 

When John appears in 1901 he is widowed, possibly for the second time, as Tom's birth cert (which I hold) gives his mother's name as Catherine.

Appreciate any encouragement to go on!!

Arranroots 

[rhys]

Hi Arranroots

I have the Mon 1871 census on cd but it is unindexed.
the district of Trevethin would take hours to search without a reference or more localised info such as garndiffaith,Tranch etc

Gwent fhs has census indices for 51/61 and 71 on microfiche.  They have published The 61  index on cd.
and The 71 cd will be released in the near future

These can be purchased from them or on the Parish
Chest website

Rhys

[pritch19]

Hi Arranroots

Here are your Morgan family in the 1891 census, place Gwrhai, Penmaen, Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire:

John Morgan  45  Coal Miner  b.  Wereall
Caroline Morgan  44  b.  Wereall
George Samuel Morgan  21  Coal Miner  b.  Snatchwood
David John Morgan  19  Coal Miner  b. Snatchwood
Alfred James Morgan  17  Coal Miner  b. Snatchwood
Edward Albert Morgan  13  b.  Snatchwood
Tom Morgan 11  b. Gwrhai
Ebenezer Morgan  8  b.  Gwrhai
Martha Alice Morgan  6  b. Gwrhai
Caroline Morgan  4  b.  Gwrhai
Edwin Charles Morgan  b. Gwrhai

Hope this helps   

pritch19

[rhys]

Hi Arrowroots
what a difference a word makes.
Snatchwood was the key thanks to pritch

1871 TREVETHIN RG10 5333 33 1


SNATCHWOOD
Primrose cottage

Morgan John               H m 26 Haulier Abersychan
    "         Caroline       W m 25            Pontnewynnydd
      "       William H F    S  u   3                    "
       "    George Samuel S u 1                    "
       "     Daniel             H  m 61 Farm Lab Mon Goytre
       '      Phoebe           W m  52            Glos Newnham
Saunders Elizabeth      Nei u  19Dom ser Pontypool

There are also an Arnold family at the cottage who are boarders.

Have no idea if the second Morgan family are related

The  Gwent fhs index has the  following for 51 and 61
though whether it is your family you will have to research further.
1861 TREVETHIN pontnewynnydd
RG9 4008 01 01
MORGAN DAVID  44
               PHEBE  40
               JOHN     15

1851 TREVETHIN
HO107 2449  36 312

MORGAN  DAVID    35
                PHOEBE 31
                JOHN        6     
         
    Rhys                                   

[Arranroots]

Wow!  You are stars - thank you both so much!!

These are definitely they.  I have a whole host of WEBBS to trace, so maybe should invest in the software in case my ancestry subscription needs renewing before Monmouth appears!

Diolch (hope I spelt that right?!?)

Arranroots