James Henry HOLGATE

[wildgoose]

Yes I've found them.  Emma's pob is recorded as Witch, Liechtenstein

[wildgoose]

have you any idea re:marriage date

a. Emma WOLLOTON?STRETTON & William HOLGATE

b.george ATTWOOD

[wildgoose]

Trying to find more info. re:the HOLGATEs.  On the LDS could only find 2 children (actually it was 3 Margaret had the same details as William)

William HOLGATE
24 DEC 1871   Newbiggin By Appleby, Westmorland

John HOLGATE
15 MAY 1873 Newbiggin By Appleby, Westmorland   

Below is the 1891 with usual errors.
I think I've allocated the right child to right parent - I've listed George's children first.

13 children and still room for a lodger!!!

1891 Census recs.
Census Place: Heston, Spring Grove, Middlesex,
George ATTWOOD, head, marr., 39, SRY, Putney
Emma Holgate ATTWOOD, wife, 41, Liechtenstein, Witch (Whitwick, LEI)
Alfred ATTWOOD, son, unm., 17, Cugat, CUL
George ATTWOOD, son, 2, Cugat, CUL.
Margaret ATTWOOD, stepdaur., unm., 20, Barnwood, CUL
William ATTWOOD, stepson, unm., 19, Pewbridger, WES
John ATTWOOD, stepson, unm., 17, Pewbridger, WES
Ellen ATTWOOD, stepdaur., 15, Wortley, CUL
Issac ATTWOOD, stepson., 15, Scrattage, MDX? (Guisborough, NRY)
Jane ATTWOOD, stepdaur., 13, Hull, ERY.
Benjamin ATTWOOD, stepson, 12, Hull, ERY.
James ATTWOOD, stepson, 10, Southport, LAN.
Thomas ATTWOOD, stepson, 7?, Scrattage, MDX.
Thomas ELBURY, boarder, 18, Scrattage, MDX

[Tati]

Hi again Wildgoose,

I can't see Emma's first marriage but this should be the 2nd one:

June quarter 1888
Brentford registration district 3a 147
Emma Woolerton Holgate - George Gilbert Attwood

[wildgoose]

thanks   would that be in middlesex

would that mean George Attwood b1889 was Emma's child by George Gilbert ATTWOOD

10 out of 10 for stamina

Dave


PS Fanny    WILDGOOSE was my great great grandmother's name

[Tati]

would that be in middlesex

Yes 

Yes, looks like little George was their common son.

I wonder why you named everybody Attwood on the 1891 census  The Holgates are clearly Holgates on the actual census image 


I wonder is this is the Cumberland birthplace "Cugat"
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CUL/Culgaith/index.html

[wildgoose]

Thought I'd gone mad for a moment.  I didn't see the actual image just the results of the search on Ancestry....

Alfred Attwood     17
Benjaman Attwood    12
Ellen Attwood    15
Emma Attwood    41
George Attwood    39
George Attwood    2
Isaac Attwood    15
James Attwood    10
Jane Attwood    13
John Attwood    17
Margaret Attwood    20
Thomas Attwood    7
William Attwood    19
Thomas Elbury    18

[Tati]

If you've got access to that then I suppose you can view the image as well? 

[wildgoose]

Here's the HOLGATEs...   It wouldn't let me send the full version...  Below you can see what started this search...Joseph STRETTON...my great great grand dad

Name:   William HOLGATE
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Birth:   1823   Stainforth, Yorkshire.
Occupation:   Railway Labourer.
Spouse:   Emma WOOLERTON
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Birth:   1850   Whitwick,  Leicestershire
Father:   Joseph STRETTON (1829-1898)
Mother:   Ellen WOOLERTON (1828-1902)
Other Spouses:   George Gilbert ATTWOOD

Children:
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1 F:   Anna HOLGATE
Birth:   1869   Unstone, Derbyshire
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2 F:   Margaret HOLGATE
Birth:   1870   Barron Wood, Cumberland.
Occupation:   Factory worker.
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3 M:   William HOLGATE
Birth:   24 12 1871   Newbiggin By Appleby, Westmorland.
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4 M:   John HOLGATE
Birth:   15 5 1873   Newbiggin By Appleby, Westmorland
Occupation:   General Labourer.
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5 M:   Issac HOLGATE
Birth:   1876   Guisborough, NRY.
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6 F:   Ellen HOLGATE
Birth:   1877   Langwathby, Cumberland.
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7 F:   Jane HOLGATE
Birth:   1878   Hull, ERY.
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8 M:   Benjamin HOLGATE
Birth:   1879   Hull, ERY.
Occupation:   General Labourer.
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9 M:   James Henry HOLGATE
Birth:   20 7 1880   39 Upper Duke St., Soutport, Lancashire.1
Occupation:   Carman
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10 M:   Thomas HOLGATE
Birth:   1884   Scrattage, Middlesex.
Occupation:   General Labourer.


Notes for William HOLGATE
1871 Census recs.
Dwelling: New Biggin Village
Census Place: New Biggin, WES.
William HOLGATE, head, marr., 48, Railway Labour, YKS, Stainforth
Emma Stretton HOLGATE, wife, marr., 27, LEI, Whittick (Whitwick)
Anna HOLGATE, daur., 2, DBY, Unstone
Margaret HOLGATE, daur., 5 months, CUL, Barron Wood
Henry ATKINS, boarder,70, YKS, Ingleton.
John ELVIN, boarder, 30, NFK, Honman.
John LUND, boarder, 56, LAN, Chipping.
Duncan McINTYRE, boarder, 49, Scotland.
William RABY, boarder, 64, LAN, Middleton.
Thomas STANLEY, boarder, 29, WOR, Stourbridge.
1881 Census recs.
Dwelling: 39 Upper Duke St
Census Place: North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Wm. HOLGATE Head M Male 59 Dents Head, YKS, ENG Railway Gauger     
Annie (Emma) Woolerton HOLGATE Wife M Female 33 Wilick (Whitwick), LEI, ENG         
Annie HOLGATE Daur. Female 11 Hunstone (Unstone), DBY, ENG Scholar     
Maggie HOLGATE Daur Female 10 Barnwood (Barron Wood), CUL, ENG Scholar     
William HOLGATE Son Male 9 Newbigan (Newbiggin), WES, ENG Scholar     
John HOLGATE Son Male 7 Newbigan (Newbiggin), WES, ENG Scholar     
Isaac HOLGATE  Son Male 5 Guisborough, NRY, ENG Scholar     
Ellen HOLGATE Daur Female 4 Langwalkby (Langwathby), CUL, ENG         
Jenny HOLGATE Daur Female 3 Hull, ERY, ENG         
Benjamin HOLGATE Son Male 2 Hull, ERY, ENG         
William WHITTAM Boarder U Male 59 Wettick (Whitwick), LEI, ENG Labourer On Railway     
George HATWOOD Boarder W Male 29 Putney, SRY, ENG Labourer On Railway     
Edwin DAVIS Boarder M Male 40  Shrewsbury Railway Gauger     

Notes for James Henry (Child 9)
1881 Census: Spoil Banks, Claylane, Derby, England, James HOLGATE   7 m M Southport, Lancashire, England.   Rel: Gnd Son Joseph STRETTON
1891 Census:  Scrattage, Heston, Spring Grove, Middlesex, James ATTWOOD, stepson, 10, LAN, Southport.
1901 Census: Scrattage Farm, Heston, Middlesex, James HALGATE, stepson, unm., 21, Carman, LAN, Southport.


Sources
1. Birth cert. No.408
James Henry HOLGATE
b.1880, Jul 20th, 39 Upper Duke St., Southport, LANN.
f.William HOLGATE, Contractor's foreman.
m.Emma HOLGATE, formerly WOOLLATON
inf.Emma HOLGATE, her X mark, mother, 39 Upper Duke St., Southport.
reg.1880, Aug 23rd, Ormskirk, LAN.

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Last Modified:   5 6 2007
Created:   5 6 2007