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Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« on: Tuesday 05 June 07 09:12 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I have been given the following information about our relation - can any help us?

The problem is John Wheatley's wife Mary Ansell. She was either the daughter of Joseph Ansell and Mary Cleverly (bap. 22-2-1761) or the daughter of Samuel Ansell and Susan Taylor (bap. 3-2-1762). One of these two was buried at Ware on 25th May 1770. The other one married John Wheatley, but which one ?

Now pick the bones out of that!!!!


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Keith
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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

To add some petrol to the flames, I came to the conclusion that Mary Ansell bapt 1761 probably married William JOHNSON in Ware on 24 Apr 1786.....

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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 January 08 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keith,

May I suggest that you ask someone to check the Ware Parish Registers for the death of Mary Ansell in 1770. Hopefully that will tell you whose daughter she was.

Then you just need to find out who the other one married  ::) - either William Johnson (from HogHedge) or John Wheatley.

Again, checking the PR's for both marriages may provide further info particularly checking who the witnesses were (possibly rellies). If married by Banns - checking the Banns register may also help with relative names.

Good luck

Di
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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 January 08 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Do your Ansells have any relation to the Ansells of Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire?

My Wheathamstead Ansells are -

Thomas Ansell (bc1752) m Elizabeth (mn unknown). Their daughters were -
Sarah Ansell (bc1775) m George East (bc1873) in 1893
Elizabeth Ansell (bc1778) m Thomas Brown (b1776) in 1796 at Hatfield

Elizabeth is my 5x great grandmother.


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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 January 08 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks All,

I have a possible John Wheatley married Mary Ansely c1778 in Ware - with 9 children all in Ware.

Still checking up on these -  daughter of them married - Elizabeth - John Tabram in 1806

John was my 3rd great-granduncle who married in Stanstead Abbots .

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Keith
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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 January 08 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Children of Joseph & Mary Ansell were:-

Mary 1761
Abraham 1762
Joseph 1765
Thomas 1769
Elizabeth 1773

Children of William & Mary (nee Ansell) Johnson were:-

William 1788
Abraham 1791
Robert 1794
Joseph 1798

Abraham and Joseph weren't names used by any other Johnson families that I know of.

The Ware and Wheathampstead Ansells were probably related but don't know how.

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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 January 08 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi HogHedge,

Thanks for that - trying to sort them all out.

What I have is my John Tabram  marriage to Elizabeth Wheatley  - then all is "guesswork"

Cheers

Keith



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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 January 08 15:23 GMT (UK) »


Me again!!

I have Elizabeth Tabram (55) with Prudence Wheatley (45) together in the 1841 census (sister-in-laws)

Which connects their families elsewhere.

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Keith
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Re: Mary ANSELL - b c1758 - Ware
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keith,

The Ware St.Mary PRs record the burial ...   25May1770 Mary ANSELL a child.  'P'.    The note 'P' is a relic of the days of the plague, and indicates death due to an epidemic of some kind.

 Yet another pint Keith.

Regards   ...   Peter
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