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Where is Claisantonan
« on: Saturday 16 June 07 13:00 BST (UK) »
Hi
 I was hoping someone could tell me the exact location of  Claisantonan in Urray.
 The 1854 marriage of my 2nd Great Granparents Alexander McKenzie & Margaret Cameron gives  Claisantonan as where Alexander is from & I would like to pinpoint it's location.

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Bryan
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Re: Where is Claisantonan
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 June 07 13:47 BST (UK) »
That's a puzzle Bryan!

Even Urray isn't found by most of the map sites I have bookmarked!

Could it be that Claisantonan is further afield?

www.streetmap.co.uk allows you to search on the first five letters of a placename & that turns up a few possibles?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Where is Claisantonan
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 June 07 14:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Arranroots
 The spelling may be incorrect as it is very hard to read, Ancestry & Free Reg seems to transcribe somthing close to it as Claisantorran.
 It may well be an address as the households in the 1841 Census I believe is the correct place are Teandalloch & Glasantorran.
 The Census Piece is 85 District: 5 & Folio: 0

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Bryan
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Re: Where is Claisantonan
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 June 07 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi again Bryan

If you go to the streemap website I mentioned above and put in Teandalloch the nearest place is Clashandorran - possibly another interpretation of Claisantonan?

Have a look around and see what you think.

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)


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Re: Where is Claisantonan
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 June 07 14:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for your help.

Cheers
Bryan
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Re: Where is Claisantonan
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 June 07 19:33 BST (UK) »
Hi there

In "Place names of Ross and Cromarty" by WJ Watson (published 1904), he lists a place called Claisdarran in Urray parish (this is the closest name to Claisantonan that I could find in Urray).

Watson says that Claisdarran is from the Gaelic Clais an torrain, meaning "hollow of the hillock". I think this place looks like it could be a possibility, especially with the liberties sometimes taken with Gaelic spellings! Also, ts and ds are often interchangeable when Gaelic names are Anglicised, the Gaelic word "clais" I think is  pronounced more like clash" and if the second last N in Claisantonan is really RR instead ... well there's a few "ifs" in there, but I think it still looks possible.

I've also found a Clashdarran on a reprint of a Victorian map of the area. It's about one mile north-west of Beauly (Beauly should be marked on decent maps of the area) and one mile due west of a village called Tomich.

Hope this helps!
Lynn

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Re: Where is Claisantonan
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 June 07 08:41 BST (UK) »
Now that sounds more likely Lynn - mine was quite a step away from Urray!

Hurray!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Where is Claisantonan
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 June 07 13:44 BST (UK) »
Arranroots & Chortlegirl

Thank you very much to you both for your help.
After looking at the map I now believe it is Clashandorran near Beauly.
 What helps confirm this is I believe it is my Alexander I found in the 1841 Census, after checking the map I noticed Aultvaich within a kilometre where there is a Margaret Cameron the right age who I believe is his future wife.
 A bit more checking to do.

Thank you again

Bryan
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