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1841/51/61 census, Bibey family, Llanelly
« on: Monday 25 June 07 14:04 BST (UK) »
I'm hoping to help a friend out with her research...

Trying to trace William Bibey b c1843 Llanelly. He may have had brothers Peter b c1848 Llanelly, Brecknock and Benjamin b c1857 Llanelly, Brecknock.

This info has come from the 1881 census when William is married to Jennet, they have 6 children and live in Gilfach Goch, Glam and Peter is married to Emma, they have 3 children and live in Llantrisant. Also boarding with them is Benjamin Bibey.

I'm hoping the censuses can link these men and show who their parents are.

Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: 1841/51/61 census, Bibey family, Llanelly
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 June 07 14:18 BST (UK) »
1851 - H0107 /2490/416 /26
Aberbaiden. Brecon

William Bibey, hd, m, 37, iron miner, gloster west dean
Mary, wife, 35, gloster english bickner??
George, son, 15 "
William, son, 8 "
James, son, 6 "
Peter son 3 Brecon Llanely

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: 1841/51/61 census, Bibey family, Llanelly
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 June 07 14:28 BST (UK) »
1861 - RG9 / 4219 / 63a / pg 19
Darren Velen ? Llanelly

William Bibey, 50 hd, m, coal miner, gloster Bickney
Mary, wife, 46 "
William son 19 "
James son 17 "
Peter son 13 Brecon Llanelly
Thomas son 10 Brecon Llanelly
Mary Ann dau 6 Brecon "
Benjamin son 4 Brecon "

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: 1841/51/61 census, Bibey family, Llanelly
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 June 07 14:40 BST (UK) »
Cas,
Thank you for the census info.  :)I note from both census that son William was born in English Bicknor. The William Bibey from the 1881 census said he was b in Llanelly, so I'm wondering if my friends is a different William and that Peter and his family are not connected after all. :(

Is there any chance you (or someone else) could look to see if there was a William b c1843 Llanelly?

Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs


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Re: 1841/51/61 census, Bibey family, Llanelly
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 June 07 14:54 BST (UK) »
I cannot locate a William born 1843 in Llanelly. As he was so young he would only have had info from his parents were he was born.

Here is the 1871 it looks likely it is the right family.  Check freebmd for births in brecon/Gloster to verify were born.  Bibey is unusual.

1871 - RG10/5386 /19/31

Gilfach goch

William Bibby hd, m, 28 coal miner Gloster parish not known
Jennet wife 23 Glam St Brides
Catherine Jane dau 4mths Ystradyfodwg
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: 1841/51/61 census, Bibey family, Llanelly
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 June 07 15:04 BST (UK) »
Here is the likely marriage - William Bibey Bridgend June Q 1869 11a 617  looks like Jennet has not been transcribed yet only 5 on page. Bridgend reg would come under St Brides

On the 1881 it looks like Brecon Llanelly has been written over Glos for William & Jennet

Cas
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: 1841/51/61 census, Bibey family, Llanelly
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 June 07 15:54 BST (UK) »
Cas,
Thank you for all your help. I'll pass the info onto my friend, I know she'll be pleased!
Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs