bennetts and ramsdens

[frankieb]

Hi paul and william and megran
Just wondering if you can help again with the same bennett family. ?? I am contacting a man called john on another site and he has a tree similar to mine but he has the william bennett marrying a mary but not jones -duckworth. So its the william bennett who we say is born 1801 to henry and elaeanor coppack(not confirmed megran said). I feel that with your help i have found the correct william and mary nee jones for my bennetts line-but not sure about wether william from 1801 in wepre/northop etc who marries mary jones has a father named henry and mother eleanor nee coppack. Althouggh i printed out a copy of the 1841 census for william and mary nee jones and it looked like they lived more or less next door to a henry aged 65 years -a farmer butr cannott read wifes name-is it eleanor?? So surely william is related to this henry if not his son. This is where i go off instinct william instead of proof. What do you all reckon?? Hope im not being a pest. Maybe there are two williams born in 1801 in that area who have fahers named henry? I hope i am connected to the cppack side-because that is listed a bit on family search and i know people on other sites who are connected to that line-so maybe i can keep my fingers crossed.
thanks.
frankie

[Megran]

Just a few notes for you.
Henry Bennett and Eleanor, sometimes Elinor or Ellen.

William Bennett bp 6 June 1801 married Mary Jones 26 Sept 1822 Northop Mary bp 1803 dau of George and Mary Jones.  Details re Mary need checking.

A book which could be helpful to you, "A Lifetime of Ships" by Tom Coppack, also "Schooner Captain" by Capt Hugh Shaw".
HTH,
Megran.

[frankieb]

thanks megran
willorder those books today from work-thanks. hope william has spotted the parents of mary jones cos maybe that will help him with his.
thankyou
frankie

[wrjones]

Yes I did take note of the Parents of Mary Jones Frankie,I am left wondering as to why my John Conway was a witness to William and Mary's Marriage?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

[frankieb]

Hi william
So is it the correct mary jones for you now you know her parents?? Were they not neighbors or same church goers or distant relatives or something???
regards
frankie

[wrjones]

Unfortunately Frankie,you can rule out any connection with the Jones Family of mine.The Parents of the Jones sisters I mentioned,were a Thomas Jones and Mary Davies,who were both born in Caerfallwch Flintshire.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

[Megran]

Hi Frankie,
Somemore bits and pieces for you.
Found a note to say Henry Bennett bc 1865 son of Benjamin and Catherine possibly dies in the Urmston area, sorry no other reference or source, from the 'early days' of my research.

William Bennett bp 1792 Hawarden son of John and Catherine Bennett nee Connah married Mary Duckworth 1817 Hawarden.
Their children Anne, Catherine, William, John, a second John, Thomas and Peter Duckworth Bennett, there maybe others.

There is a Henry bp 1773 Northop son of William and Anne Bennett and a Henry bp 1768 Northop son of John amd Catherine Bennett.  William and John are the sons of Henry and Mary Bennett, making the two Henry's (1773 and 1768) cousins.

Seems to be two large branches of the Bennetts, popular names being William, Benjamin, Thomas then Henry, Samuel, John, Jonathan, James then later Nathanial and Frederick.

Hope this is useful and doesn't confuse things too much.
Regards,
Megran.

[frankieb]

Hi william, megran and paul and everyone else who has helped me

On another site i have somone again asking me if my william bennett born 1801 (we think to henry and eleanor)-is the william who married mary duckworth. Does this mean that there are two possiblities for my william bennett then??? These tow people on the other site have asked me about mary duckworth-so i wondered if anyone can spot that marriage for me -and maybe compare witnesses and parents and area of living??? The thing that i found was that there is a william and mary bennett which i thought was mine-think it is with the kids being correct-benajim etc-living next door almost to henry and elaeanor-when henry was a farmer aged 65. I am wondering who is the one getting mixed up-or could it be a coincidence that my william and mary are living next to henry and that there is anothe rwilliam and mary bennett nee duckworth living in the same place with different kids?? What do you think-can anyone help with this-i know its a difficult one pre civil registration
yours hopefully
frankie

[Megran]

Hi Frankie,
Hope this helps to sort out the two (for now) William and Mary's.
Hawarden Marriage.  7 April 1817 By Lic.
William Bennett  Sadler (Full) H (Hawarden) Ba
Mary Duckworth Sp
Wits Thos Bennett   Catherine Duckworth.

1851 census Hawarden Village
William Bennett  59 bc1792 Sadler, Parish Clerk & Organist
Mary Bennett    55 bc1796
Anne Bennett    32
Catherine Bennett  30
William Bennett   27


Northop Marriage 26 Sept 1822 By Banns both of full age
WilliamBennett of Wepre Bac Lab
Mary Jones of Wepre Sp
WB  X   MJ  X   
Wits X John Conway of Flint Collier
Wits X Catherine Jones of Flint Mountan  Sp.   

1851 census Wepre
William Bennett 48 bc1803
Mary Bennett 47 bc1804
Henry Bennett  17
William Bennett  13
Leticia Bennett  6
James Bennett  4
Martha Bennett  2
 
William and Mary both buried Connah's Quay
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1851 census Wepre
Henry Bennett 79
Ellen Bennett 79
Samuel Harden G/s 11
James Hughes G/s 11
Lavinia Hughes G/d 14
 
Henry and Ellen both buried Connah's Quay

William Harding/Harwarden/Harden married Elizabeth Bennett dau of Henry and Ellen.

Humphrey Hughes married Martha Bennett dau of Henry and Ellen.

Regards,
Megran.