Parkin

[zacc]

Trying to confirm parents of John Henry Parkin DOB abt 1877, who married Francis nee Tristram born abt 1877, Bury.
He lived in the Salford area of Manchester , had 4 children , John?1898 ,
Voilet 1902, Annie 1904, Thomas 1913, also was a joiner by profession.

TIA zacc

[mosiefish]

Hello and a warm welcome to Rootschat,

The 1901 census shows that John was born in Middlesborough, Yorkshire

RG13/3733 Folio 146 page 25
9 Cattle Street, Salford
John H Parkin, Head, M, 24, Journeyman Joiner, Yorks Middlesborough
Frances S, Wife, M, 24, Lancs Bury
John S, Son, 6 months, Salford
Thomas, Brother,M, 22, Journeyman Joiner, Durham Stockton
Mary R, Sister in Law, M, 21. Lancs Bury

1891 census:

4 Thos. Turner Street, Salford

George Parkin, Head, Mar, 44, Show Case Maker, Casup Durham
Alice, Wife, M. 36, Hull Yorks,
Wm Neasham or Nabham Parkin, Son, Single 17, Show Case Maker, Middlesborough Yorks
George, Son, 15, Show Case Maker, Middlesborough Yorks
JOHN, Son, 14. Middlesborough Yorks
Sam, Son, 12, Stockton Yorks
Fred, Son, 10, Stockton Yorks
Jas, Son, 7, Magove? Park Yorks
Mary, Daur, 1, Salford

I will have a track back and see if Alice is also named as the mother.

Regards,
Mo

[zacc]

Thanks mosiefish for the welcome and info.

I do know that John H. Parkin has a Yorkshire connection,
my dad believed it be Hull
Also one of his sons has the name Thomas NEACHAM Parkin.

Both Hull and the name link up i.e. Alice from Hull and their son being William
Neasham/Nabham Parkin.

The only brother I know of for John H. Parkin is a James married to Ethel,
he died Nov/Dec 1963.

Came across this marriage on UKBMD what do you think ?

PARKIN George REED Alice E 1871 St Andrew (Drypool) Yorkshire Hull JF/4/86

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[mosiefish]

Hi,

Yes the marriage you have found does look a likely candidate although it may be worth tracking down one of the childrens birth certificates to verify Alice`s maiden name first.

Now, I want to apologise,  last night on the 1901 census I typed in MARY for the name of Thomas`s wife.  It was transcribed as Mary but on further inspection it is definitely MAY. I also missed their (Thomas and May`s)son George H aged 1 off too.   There is a Thomas Parkin and May Tristram that appear on the same page of marriages in Salford, June Qtr. 1899 Ref. Volume 8d Page 128.  Did two brothers marry two sisters?  Frances did indeed have a sister May that was the same age. 

By the way, I believe Frances was previously married to a John Shelmerdine in 1895 at Christ Church, Salford. 
Frances Shelmerdine married John Henry Parkin Sept. Qtr. 1899 Salford 8d 130.

Regards,
Mo

[zacc]

Hi Mo,
thanks for your help.
You're bang on his wife was May my dad remembers auntie May.

"By the way, I believe Frances was previously married to a John Shelmerdine in 1895 at Christ Church, Salford. 
Frances Shelmerdine married John Henry Parkin Sept. Qtr. 1899 Salford 8d 130."

Interestingly I came to the same conclusion about this , but no-one in the family seem to be aware of this.
One source though has Perkins though not Parkin so is that another transcribe mistake or a wrong recording of Parkin?
The problem is the living relatives are getting to a stage where memory is not too sure, or limited in knowledge.
That along with family being fragmented resulting in losing touch with each other.
Hey oh the joys of family research 

[DS]

Came across this marriage on UKBMD what do you think ?
PARKIN George REED Alice E 1871 St Andrew (Drypool) Yorkshire Hull JF/4/86

Hello zacc

If you have followed Mo’s advice and obtained a birth certificate for one of the children, you may already have discovered this yourself, but in case you have not, I think (almost certainly) that the marriage to Alice E Reed in not the correct one. I think that this is the most likely marriage...

1870 Stockton OND quarter 10a 192

Allice Bartho
George Parkin

I have not managed to find her on the 1861 census (prior to her marriage) but I think that this could be her birth registration...

1854 Hull AMJ quarter 9d 185

Alice Bartho

I hope that this proves to be of some help.

DS

ps I have also sent a Personal Message

[miloson]

Came across this marriage on UKBMD what do you think ?
PARKIN George REED Alice E 1871 St Andrew (Drypool) Yorkshire Hull JF/4/86

Hello zacc

If you have followed Mo’s advice and obtained a birth certificate for one of the children, you may already have discovered this yourself, but in case you have not, I think (almost certainly) that the marriage to Alice E Reed in not the correct one. I think that this is the most likely marriage...

1870 Stockton OND quarter 10a 192

Allice Bartho
George Parkin

I have not managed to find her on the 1861 census (prior to her marriage) but I think that this could be her birth registration...

1854 Hull AMJ quarter 9d 185

Alice Bartho

I hope that this proves to be of some help.

DS

ps I have also sent a Personal Message

[miloson]

Hello my Mother is 86, her Mother was Mary Alice Parkin , my mother would like to find Cousins that may be alive . Any help would be great.

[zacc]

Hello my Mother is 86, her Mother was Mary Alice Parkin , my mother would like to find Cousins that may be alive . Any help would be great.

Hello miloson I'm really not sure I  can help as after Annie Parkin (my grandmother ) I don't know of any other family.
Of course my father is Annie's son he's 84.
Who did Mary Alice Parkin marry?