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Any links to help me please
« Reply #36 on: Friday 26 March 10 09:40 GMT (UK) »
Mainly looking for Alexanders out of or before Dublin.[/u]
(This is mainly part of a letter from Kate probably my great aunt-sister to my grandfather John Armstrong Alexander.)
Written      from  47 Tavistock St. Bedford.    6/7/1900   To Alice.

((  )) =  My additions
Capt. Thomas Armstrong (Am) supposed to be a younger brother of Sir Thomas Am. (Judge Jeffries victim) settled in Tipperary, at the old Castle of Farney Bridge, near Thurles, Co.Tipperary.(Tipp.) soon after the battle of Worchester (some say in 1660) He was a Capt. Of a troop of horse attached to the Tipperary Militia in 1688.
 He  married Alice dr.of Sir Thomas Deane of Clare Co. Suffolk.
 His eldest son John married (M) Julianna, dr, of Robert Carew Esq. of Ballyboro Co. Wexford, (( Born 1640? D. 1706/7))
 from him came the A’s of Mount Heaton King’s County, now represented by Mr. Macdonnell Am. Co. Clare.

Capt.Thomas Am’s 2nd son, Thomas, B. (1671) of Meanliffe (now Moyaliff, Co. Tipp., M. Mary dr.  of Robert Carew Esq of Ballinamona Co. Wexford;
 he had 7 sons & 6 drs., from his eldest son came the Am’s 
of Meanliffe Hall, Thurles  Co. Tipp. Thomas Am. was High Sheriff of Tipp. In the reign of Queen Anne  ((  1702- 1714))  He died in 1747. One of his sons must ((???)) have been the
 Rev. Robert Carew Am. ((B. 1709?)) for 30 yrs Curate & for 27 yrs Rector of ((Shinrone or Shinrose)) in Kings Co., he was blind for some yrs. Before his death, owing to have been struck by lightning, but took the services at church every Sun. from memory, he died 18/1/1790 aged 80 yrs.
   He M. Jane dr. of Anthony Atkinson Esq. of Congart ( this A. Atkinson M. in 1709 Mary dr. of Admiral John Guy celebrated as having ‘’ relieved Derry, raising the boom’’ .
   Jane A. (Nee Atkinson))  died 23/1/1763.
 Rev. Robert Carew Am. & Jane had  4 sons. Thomas M Francis Wheller- 1771 of Ballywire, Tipp.
John born in 1751 ((Twins ??)) ,
Guy  ((M. Margaret Williams ??)) & Anthony  (( Had Lancelot Carew ??)),
 also 4 dr’s. Mary M. to Hugh Wray Esq. of Birr;       Mrs Smyth:    Mrs Ellard( M. to a clergyman); Alicia D. unmarried )
                                 Thomas had 3 sons Thomas, Frank & John.
The descendants of Thomas & John who both married miss Massey’s, & are in Canada & the U.S. their father having been extravagant & his brother John was impoverished by having rashly signed his name to a promissory bill for him.(( ????? ))
Frank Am. Was an officer in the Army & served throughout the Peninsular War (( 1808-14)) without a wound. He settled in Jersey & M. as late as 1874. He was living, & still able to walk out with the dogs.                    (( of little interest->>))
( Uncle Nicholas met a grandson of his in Athens, by the name of de Quetteville, who stayed once at Albury, & on another occasion was there for a day with his mother) This M. de Quetteville died early from consumption & sight of the connection was lost again; escapt((???????)) to hear, incidentally though another relation in 1874 of old Capt. T.Armstrong still being alive & active. He was one of Uncle Nicholas’s heroes, in his boyish days.


John Am. ( Son of Robert C. & Jane Am.)  M. Frances dr. of Thomas Doolan of Portumna, Galway. Whose wife was Anna Maria Tidd.
  Francis Doolan was only 16 on her marriage with J. Am. In 1773 She died in 1844 aged 87. B. 1864.her husband John.Am. died Dec. 1826 age 75 . B.1751
They left many sons. 1) Robert, who M. badly, for the 2nd time, he left a family & has descendents, but they have quite fallen from the position that their grandfather was born in, & which, had he been steady, he would, have been well continued in. 2) Thomas ( our grandfather ((To Kate & J.A.A. my g.father ???))  )  was an excellent man; he was at the battle of Talavern; but caught a fever directly afterwards & was compelled in consequence of it’s effect upon his health, to leave the army: he died, before his time. Of fever, he  M.15/1/1856.  Catherinne Carroll of a good Co. Galway family. His money went in the failure of a bank. 3) Nicholas was the youngest but one of J.Am’s large family.
 (( 5 Carroll’s - Ed. X 2, Pat. x 2 & Thomas of Cool & Ballyglass,
 Ahascroghmore in Ballincloon. A lot more  in –Griffiths.  Kate continues->>))
    Therefore also , Richard, Guy, Edward, William!!!!, Henry, (who died young): Guy Am.
Was a ‘’man among men’’ (as you know we heard much of him from mother. He M. Jane dr. of his uncle Guy. They had no family. Mr. Williams mother  was sister of this Jane.
N.B. I have been looking up the various surnames of the families with whom the Am.’s
Intermarried & find them all mentioned in O.Harts ‘’Irish Pedigrees’’ (( Can’t find it anywhere)) which I got a loan of. I shall now endeavour to have the Alexander side of the family. You know they were connected with the Carrolls.
                        Kate.
The above sketch (( She continues->))  is copied almost word for word from that which Cousin Francis sent me .     Kate.         


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Alexander's. & Armstrong's  Ireland

Bloomfield's as well in UKI'm looking for the
 Alexanders  of Galway. Ballinasloe  & elsewhere,   any others connected with
William A. of Dublin B.30/06/1826.D7 or 17/01/1892.
 His Wife Frances Geraldine (Armstrong)  B.Loughrea? 10/12/1824?5 D.05/08/1882. 
William's  father was Thomas  who married Ann Carroll before ? 1823

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Re: links to Alexander's & Armstrong's
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 16 February 11 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Interested in more information.  My family decended from John and Eliza (Massey)Armstrong.  My ggrandfather was Robert Carew Armstrong His son Charles and wife Delia Dufresne my grandparents.  My fathers name was Edward Joseph John Armstrong.
Hi Laterunner and thanks for posting the letter from "Aunt Kate".

I am descended from one of the 2 Sons of Thomas Armstrong - who both married Miss Massey's - and moved to Canada.  I am interested in sharing what I know about the family with you and would dearly love to have a copy of the letter. 

The 2 Brothers came to Canada as part of an Irish settlement program run by a Canadian MP named Peter Robinson.  Not Thomas, but Robert Carew Armstrong and wife Margaret Anne Massey came with around 500 settlers in 1823 to the area that became the Canadian Capital, Ottawa. Brother John and wife Eliza Massey came in 1825 with some 2,500 settlers.  They settled an area about 150 miles away which later became Peterborough, in honour of the MP who organized the settlement. 

Both families prospered and I know of at least one other cousin who joined them later as Robert's daughter Frances married a second Robert Carew Armstrong.

Can you let me know if you are still an active rootschat member?

Best regards,

John.
:)

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Re: links to Alexander's & Armstrong's
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 16 February 11 18:07 GMT (UK) »
I have connection to Frances Wheeler Married to Eliz Massy (sister of Hon Hugh Massey of Seine castle (castle name is suspect)
Children Frances Hugh Wheeler Married to Margaret Massey (sister of Hugh Massey)
Oliver Wheeler Married- No record
Elizabeth Wheeler Married ?Scanlon of Ballnala
Amy Wheeler Married Hugh Bennett
Fanny Wheeler Married Thomas Armstrong of Kings Co. Ireland MY ANCESTORS!
Anything New or different would be appreciated.
I have noticed your connections to Francis Wheeler of Ballywire. Have any of you traced back the ancestors of Francis Wheeler.
Currently it is my belief that  Francis Massey Wheeler who married Anna Doyle who was the son of Francis Wheeler who married Elizabeth Arthur who was the son of Francis Wheeler who married Elizabeth Massey
This is where it gets a bit sketchy
This Francis wheeler was posssibly the son of Oliver Wheeler and Martha Baker (When Oliver died Martha remarried Joseph Cuffe)
Oliver Wheeler would have been the son of Francis Wheeler who married Maria Tighe who was son of Oliver Wheeler who married Elizabeth Weldon who was son of Dr Jonah Wheeler Bishop of Ossory who died in 1640.
Martha Baker was either the daughter or grand daughter of Walter Baker of Ballywire which is where The Wheeler family possibly came to posses Ballywire.

Anybody know if this is correct.

What i am really trying to track down is whether there is a link into my Dublin based Wheeler family.
I am related to the Rev George Bomfforde Wheeler born in 1805 who was the 2nd editor of the Irish Times, 3 weeks after its foundation. He was originally called George Baker Wheeler but later changed his name. He also probably had a brother a William James Cuffe Wheeler. The Cuffe and Baker names would tend to indicate a link to this family. The Bomford's were also a prominent Tipperary family who married into the Massy family at one stage.

All help would be greatly appreciated.

Out of interest there is also a book in our family written by a Sir George Wheler in about 1680 regarding his travels in Greece. This book was first signed in 1732 by a Jacob Wheeler, then subsequently by a George Wheeler, James Wheeler and then the Rev George Bomfforde Wheeler.
I have not been able to find any link to the Wheler family which has an extensive pedigree

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Re: links to Alexander's & Armstrong's
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 17 February 11 08:57 GMT (UK) »
do you know Tina Hansen. she must be related to you as she is from the Armstrong line and is also picking up on this thread

I have passed on most of my information on your line to her and the connection to the Wheeler family.

She is very knowledgable about the Armstrong line and has sent me a lot of documents.

if you pm me i can give you an e-mail adress for me and her


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Re: links to Alexander's & Armstrong's
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 17 February 11 17:57 GMT (UK) »
thanks so much for the reply.  I am so excited that so much history is available now.  I am the ggrandaughter to Thomas Carew and Elizabeth Tamblyn.  Their son, Charles is my father's father, his name was Edward Joseph John Armstrong.  He immigrated to the U.S. as young man.
To any other Armstrongs out there..please let me know, I am anxious for history.
One thing that has been unavailable is the history of Charles's wife, Delia Dufresne.  As far as I have been able to only find her birthdate (Oct 1877 in Penatong, Ontario) Maybe some of you Armstrong have a connection.  they had 10 children and moved from Ontario to Alberta in 1907 to homestead.
Thanks to all.

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Re: links to Alexander's & Armstrong's
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 07 July 11 20:21 BST (UK) »
See this as an answer to most of our queries.

http://web.archive.org/web/20120310095603/http://www.houseofalexander.com/site/?m=200711 Link updated 2015
Alexander's. & Armstrong's  Ireland

Bloomfield's as well in UKI'm looking for the
 Alexanders  of Galway. Ballinasloe  & elsewhere,   any others connected with
William A. of Dublin B.30/06/1826.D7 or 17/01/1892.
 His Wife Frances Geraldine (Armstrong)  B.Loughrea? 10/12/1824?5 D.05/08/1882. 
William's  father was Thomas  who married Ann Carroll before ? 1823

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Re: links to Alexander's & Armstrong's
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 07 July 11 20:38 BST (UK) »
A Massey, Armstrong or even Williams may be an Alexander??

It has California on it's back in older script
Alexander's. & Armstrong's  Ireland

Bloomfield's as well in UKI'm looking for the
 Alexanders  of Galway. Ballinasloe  & elsewhere,   any others connected with
William A. of Dublin B.30/06/1826.D7 or 17/01/1892.
 His Wife Frances Geraldine (Armstrong)  B.Loughrea? 10/12/1824?5 D.05/08/1882. 
William's  father was Thomas  who married Ann Carroll before ? 1823

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« Reply #43 on: Thursday 01 January 15 16:57 GMT (UK) »
any canaians recognise this lady.
     I've alexander's living in Calgary now as vitlers.

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