Mary BAKER - Newlyn, Cornwall

[MaggieT]

Hi Cornish Pasty and everyone, just been browsing and came across this subject.  The info you have CP is almost all correct, he was RICHARD Norman and is my Uncle, mother's brother, if it's the info I passed on to you.  Just the dates...Joanna Gartrell b. 14 Nov 1912 d. Feb. 1993 and Richard Norman 08 Dec 1911 d. 24 Apr 1989.  They had 3 daughters, 2 sons and are all still living.  Would be happy to hear from anyone. M.

[Firefly]

Sorry that I have been offline for quite a long time.  Other things have got in the road of family history.  This would seem to match into this discussion.

Descendants of Elizabeth Nicholas
Generation No. 1

NOTE THAT ELIZABETH NICHOLAS WAS THE DAUGHTER
OF MICHAEL NICHOLAS AND Alice Thomas 02 Nov 1795
BINGO – MY LINE – .




1.   ELIZABETH6 NICHOLAS  (MICHAEL5, WILLIAM NECKLES/4, MICHAEL3, WILLIAM NECKLOS/2, JOB1) was born 17 Nov 1831 in Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England and died Aft. 1901 in Cornwall.

   She married JAMES BAKER WILLIAMS 18 Aug 1853 in St Just In Penwith, Cornwall son of JOSEPH WILLIAMS and JANE BAKER.
 He was born 16 Oct 1831 in Newlyn, Saint Levan, Cornwall, England, and died Aft. 1901 in Cornwall.
   
Children of ELIZABETH NICHOLAS and JAMES WILLIAMS are:
   i.   NICHOLAS THOMAS7 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1854, Penzance, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall (Source:   ii.   
               JAMES WILLIAMS, b. 1857, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia (Source: Diggers Birth Registrations. - REG BALLARAT 1857 NO 14710); d. Bef. 1861, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia.
   iii.   JANE BAKER WILLIAMS, b. 1860, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia (Source: Diggers Birth Registrations. - reg Ballarat no 7633); d. 1861, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia.
   iv.   JAMES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1861, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia; d. 1862, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia (Source: Digger death index.Digger death index. reg no 297 - 1862).
2.   v.   JAMES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1862, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia; d. Bef. 1901.
3.   vi.   JANIE BAKER WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1864, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.
   vii.   CHARLES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1866, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.



NOTE - FAMILY WAS IN AUSTRALIA BY 1861 AND RETURNED TO CORNWALL BY 1871

Generation No. 2

2.   JAMES7 WILLIAMS (ELIZABETH6 NICHOLAS, MICHAEL5, WILLIAM NECKLES/4, MICHAEL3, WILLIAM NECKLOS/2, JOB1) was born Abt. 1862 in Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia and died Bef. 1901.  He married JANIE PASCOE EDDY , daughter of BENJAMIN EDDY and MARY PASCOE.  She was born 27 Nov 1863 in St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall


Children of JAMES WILLIAMS and JANIE EDDY are:
   i.   MARY PASCOE8 WILLIAMS, b. 1883, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.
   ii.   LEONARD WILLIAMS, b. 1889, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.


3.   JANIE BAKER7 WILLIAMS (ELIZABETH6 NICHOLAS, MICHAEL5, WILLIAM NECKLES/4, MICHAEL3, WILLIAM NECKLOS/2, JOB1) was born Abt. 1864 in St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall
She married John Rowe, Dec 1887 in Penzance,
  He was born Abt. 1863 in St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall

   
Child of JANIE WILLIAMS and JOHN ROWE is:
i.   JEANETTE W8 ROWE, b. Abt. 1889, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall



The following is the File from the Baker side.  Any assistance in filling out this tree would be appreciated

Descendants of James Baker

0 James BAKER b: Abt. 1746
+Blanch JAMES b: Abt. 1751
    1 James BAKER b: 20 Dec 1777
    +Susanna TONKIN b: Abt. 1771
        2 Jane Tonkin BAKER b: 18 Jan 1805
        +Joseph WILLIAMS b: 02 Feb 1808
             3 Samuel WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1830
              3 James Baker WILLIAMS b: 16 Oct 1831
               +Elizabeth NICHOLAS b: 17 Nov 1831     
                  4 Nicholas Thomas WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1854
     4 James WILLIAMS b: 1857
     4 Jane Baker WILLIAMS b: 1860
     4 James WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1861
     4 James WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1862
     +Janie Pascoe EDDY b: 27 Nov 1863
        5 Mary Pascoe WILLIAMS b: 1883
                     5 Leonard WILLIAMS b: 1889
     4 Janie BAKER WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1864
     +John ROWE b: Abt. 1863
                     5 Jeanette W ROWE b: Abt. 1889
     4 Charles WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1866
             3 Ann WILLIAMS b: 19 Jun 1837
             3 Charles WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1837
       2 James BAKER b: 22 Feb 1807
       +ELIZABETH NICHOLLS b: Abt. 1811
              3 SUSANNAH BAKER b: 1838
             +SAMUEL WARREN CARTER b: Abt. 1830
                   4 Samuel CARTER b: Abt. 1868
                   4 Susan CARTER b: Abt. 1869
               3 JANE TONKIN BAKER b: 1846
               +John Nichols BECKERLEGG/BECKERLEG b: 1841
                    4 JOHN JAMES BECKERLEGG b: 1870
                    4 WILLIAM BECKERLEGG b: 1872
                    4 MARY BECKERLEGG b: 1874
                     4 JANE T. BECKERLEGG b: 1876
                     4 RICHARD H. BECKERLEGG b: 1879
                     +MARY L THOMAS
                      4 SUSAN CARTER BECKERLEGG b: 1880
                      4 ELIZA/Elizabeth A BECKERLEGG b: 1882
                       4 SARAH N BECKERLEG b: 1886
                      4 GERTRUDE BECKERLEG b: 1890
                  3 MARY BAKER b: 1848
                  +William John NICHOLLS
                  3 James BAKER b: 1851
                  +Emma WARREN
                       4 William W BAKER b: Abt. 1873
                      4 Blanch M BAKER b: Abt. 1884
                      4 James BAKER b: Abt. 1890
             2 Blanch BAKER b: 01 Apr 1810
              +Thomas GUBBS
                    3 Susanna Baker GUBBS b: Abt. 1837
  1 Mary BAKER b: 14 Jan 1776
  +Johan KOWLEWSKI b: 1761

Cheers,

Meredith

[Firefly]

To those wanting more information on Mary Baker,

Mind you that this would all need to be confirmed and have located pieces on various websites etc while trying to locate my line.

Descendants of Phillip James

0 Phillip JAMES b: 15 Dec 1722
+Jane CRANKAN b: Abt. 1720
1 Blanch JAMES b: Abt. 1751
+James BAKER b: Abt. 1746
2 James BAKER b: 20 Dec 1777
+Susanna TONKIN b: Abt. 1771
3 Jane Tonkin BAKER b: 18 Jan 1805
+Joseph WILLIAMS b: 02 Feb 1808
4 Samuel WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1830
4 James Baker WILLIAMS b: 16 Oct 1831
+Elizabeth NICHOLAS b: 17 Nov 1831
5 Nicholas Thomas WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1854
5 James WILLIAMS b: 1857
5 Jane Baker WILLIAMS b: 1860
5 James WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1861
5 James WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1862
+Janie Pascoe EDDY b: 27 Nov 1863
6 Mary Pascoe WILLIAMS b: 1883
6 Leonard WILLIAMS b: 1889
5 Janie BAKER WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1864
+John ROWE b: Abt. 1863
6 Jeanette W ROWE b: Abt. 1889
5 Charles WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1866
4 Ann WILLIAMS b: 19 Jun 1837
4 Charles WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1837
3 James BAKER b: 22 Feb 1807
+ELIZABETH NICHOLLS b: Abt. 1811
4 SUSANNAH BAKER b: 1838
+SAMUEL WARREN CARTER b: Abt. 1830
5 Samuel CARTER b: Abt. 1868
5 Susan CARTER b: Abt. 1869
4 JANE TONKIN BAKER b: 1846
+John Nichols BECKERLEGG/BECKERLEG b: 1841
5 JOHN JAMES BECKERLEGG b: 1870
5 WILLIAM BECKERLEGG b: 1872
5 MARY BECKERLEGG b: 1874
5 JANE T. BECKERLEGG b: 1876
5 RICHARD H. BECKERLEGG b: 1879
+MARY L THOMAS
5 SUSAN CARTER BECKERLEGG b: 1880
5 ELIZA/Elizabeth A BECKERLEGG b: 1882
5 SARAH N BECKERLEG b: 1886
5 GERTRUDE BECKERLEG b: 1890
4 MARY BAKER b: 1848
+William John NICHOLLS
4 James BAKER b: 1851
+Emma WARREN
5 William W BAKER b: Abt. 1873
5 Blanch M BAKER b: Abt. 1884
5 James BAKER b: Abt. 1890
3 Blanch BAKER b: 01 Apr 1810
+Thomas GUBBS
4 Susanna Baker GUBBS b: Abt. 1837
2 Mary BAKER b: 14 Jan 1776

+Johan KOWLEWSKI b: 1761

1 Edward JAMES b: Abt. 1750
1 Philip JAMES b: Abt. 1756

I have no information on Edward or James and there may have been other children.

Cheers

Meredith

 

[cornishpasty]

Hi Meredith,

Thanks so much for all that information .  A lot looks familiar but there's plenty there that I don't have and will need to go through it in the next couple of days (or weeks or months)

I will get back to you ASAP.  Looks like I found another cousin

Catch up soon and thanks again.

Regards
CP

[cornishpasty]

Meredith/Firefly,

WELCOME to Rootschat.com.  Aren't you glad you found us?

I apologise for the delay in replying as I haven't been very active on here myself lately.

Regards,
CP 

[Mc Millian]

Sorry that I have been offline for quite a long time.  Other things have got in the road of family history.  This would seem to match into this discussion.

Descendants of Elizabeth Nicholas
Generation No. 1

NOTE THAT ELIZABETH NICHOLAS WAS THE DAUGHTER
OF MICHAEL NICHOLAS AND Alice Thomas 02 Nov 1795
BINGO – MY LINE – .




1.   ELIZABETH6 NICHOLAS  (MICHAEL5, WILLIAM NECKLES/4, MICHAEL3, WILLIAM NECKLOS/2, JOB1) was born 17 Nov 1831 in Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England and died Aft. 1901 in Cornwall.

   She married JAMES BAKER WILLIAMS 18 Aug 1853 in St Just In Penwith, Cornwall son of JOSEPH WILLIAMS and JANE BAKER.
 He was born 16 Oct 1831 in Newlyn, Saint Levan, Cornwall, England, and died Aft. 1901 in Cornwall.
   
Children of ELIZABETH NICHOLAS and JAMES WILLIAMS are:
   i.   NICHOLAS THOMAS7 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1854, Penzance, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall (Source:   ii.   
               JAMES WILLIAMS, b. 1857, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia (Source: Diggers Birth Registrations. - REG BALLARAT 1857 NO 14710); d. Bef. 1861, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia.
   iii.   JANE BAKER WILLIAMS, b. 1860, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia (Source: Diggers Birth Registrations. - reg Ballarat no 7633); d. 1861, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia.
   iv.   JAMES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1861, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia; d. 1862, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia (Source: Digger death index.Digger death index. reg no 297 - 1862).
2.   v.   JAMES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1862, Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia; d. Bef. 1901.
3.   vi.   JANIE BAKER WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1864, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.
   vii.   CHARLES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1866, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.



NOTE - FAMILY WAS IN AUSTRALIA BY 1861 AND RETURNED TO CORNWALL BY 1871

Generation No. 2

2.   JAMES7 WILLIAMS (ELIZABETH6 NICHOLAS, MICHAEL5, WILLIAM NECKLES/4, MICHAEL3, WILLIAM NECKLOS/2, JOB1) was born Abt. 1862 in Ballarat,  Victoria, Australia and died Bef. 1901.  He married JANIE PASCOE EDDY , daughter of BENJAMIN EDDY and MARY PASCOE.  She was born 27 Nov 1863 in St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall


Children of JAMES WILLIAMS and JANIE EDDY are:
   i.   MARY PASCOE8 WILLIAMS, b. 1883, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.
   ii.   LEONARD WILLIAMS, b. 1889, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall.


3.   JANIE BAKER7 WILLIAMS (ELIZABETH6 NICHOLAS, MICHAEL5, WILLIAM NECKLES/4, MICHAEL3, WILLIAM NECKLOS/2, JOB1) was born Abt. 1864 in St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall
She married John Rowe, Dec 1887 in Penzance,
  He was born Abt. 1863 in St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall

   
Child of JANIE WILLIAMS and JOHN ROWE is:
i.   JEANETTE W8 ROWE, b. Abt. 1889, St Just  in Penwith, Cornwall



The following is the File from the Baker side.  Any assistance in filling out this tree would be appreciated

Descendants of James Baker

0 James BAKER b: Abt. 1746
+Blanch JAMES b: Abt. 1751
    1 James BAKER b: 20 Dec 1777
    +Susanna TONKIN b: Abt. 1771
        2 Jane Tonkin BAKER b: 18 Jan 1805
        +Joseph WILLIAMS b: 02 Feb 1808
             3 Samuel WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1830
              3 James Baker WILLIAMS b: 16 Oct 1831
               +Elizabeth NICHOLAS b: 17 Nov 1831    
  4 Nicholas Thomas WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1854
     4 James WILLIAMS b: 1857
     4 Jane Baker WILLIAMS b: 1860
     4 James WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1861
     4 James WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1862
     +Janie Pascoe EDDY b: 27 Nov 1863
        5 Mary Pascoe WILLIAMS b: 1883
                     5 Leonard WILLIAMS b: 1889
     4 Janie BAKER WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1864
     +John ROWE b: Abt. 1863
                     5 Jeanette W ROWE b: Abt. 1889
     4 Charles WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1866
             3 Ann WILLIAMS b: 19 Jun 1837
             3 Charles WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1837
       2 James BAKER b: 22 Feb 1807
       +ELIZABETH NICHOLLS b: Abt. 1811
              3 SUSANNAH BAKER b: 1838
             +SAMUEL WARREN CARTER b: Abt. 1830
                   4 Samuel CARTER b: Abt. 1868
                   4 Susan CARTER b: Abt. 1869
               3 JANE TONKIN BAKER b: 1846
               +John Nichols BECKERLEGG/BECKERLEG b: 1841
                    4 JOHN JAMES BECKERLEGG b: 1870
                    4 WILLIAM BECKERLEGG b: 1872
                    4 MARY BECKERLEGG b: 1874
                     4 JANE T. BECKERLEGG b: 1876
                     4 RICHARD H. BECKERLEGG b: 1879
                     +MARY L THOMAS
                      4 SUSAN CARTER BECKERLEGG b: 1880
                      4 ELIZA/Elizabeth A BECKERLEGG b: 1882
                       4 SARAH N BECKERLEG b: 1886
                      4 GERTRUDE BECKERLEG b: 1890
                  3 MARY BAKER b: 1848
                  +William John NICHOLLS
                  3 James BAKER b: 1851
                  +Emma WARREN
                       4 William W BAKER b: Abt. 1873
                      4 Blanch M BAKER b: Abt. 1884
                      4 James BAKER b: Abt. 1890
             2 Blanch BAKER b: 01 Apr 1810
              +Thomas GUBBS
                    3 Susanna Baker GUBBS b: Abt. 1837
  1 Mary BAKER b: 14 Jan 1776
  +Johan KOWLEWSKI b: 1761

Cheers,

Meredith

[Pharoahsgal]

Thanks for that  - will be using some of this to flesh out my family tree if thats ok - Nicholls Beckerlegge features in the tree I am researching - the line goes from his brother to the fmaily i am looking at
Regards
sarah

[Mc Millian]

Hello, I am interested in John Rowe b. 1863 St Just Cornwall,married Janie Williams 1887 Penzance. I have been searching for John Rowe for many years,Do you know the names of his parents. If they were William Rowe & Mary Ann Grenfell then I have the right one. William Rowe died 1866 and Mary Ann Grenfell/Rowe remarried and came to New Zealand with her three children. Mary, John & Margaret Wallis Rowe. Mary Rowe was my Great Grandmother so I would be very interested to know if you have further data on this family.I have a photo of Mary Ann Rowe, one of Mary Rowe.
Look forward to hearing from you.

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[Mc Millian]

If this is the right family connection it would be lovely to find any family members that can give more details of their ancestors as we have nothing on this side of the Rowe/Grenfell family and would hopefully complete this side of the family.
Kind regards.
Marie Hayes.