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Offline Uncle Gromit

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"Real Australian" Records - Query closed
« on: Tuesday 10 July 07 13:41 BST (UK) »
Greetings to all you trackers out there.
Firstly, I will acknowledge how good this site and particularly the lovely people who are willing to help others, has been to people like myself.
With your help, I have been able to travel back to before 1800, with relative (pardon the pun) ease, in my endeavours.
As an exiled Scouser, all of my records, whilst not being exactly easy in some cases, have been available to me.
I was explaining to a good friend, how I had manged to achieve this with the help of Roots Chat. He then asked me how he could trace his family tree and, therin lies my dilema.
My mucker is aboriginal and, while he has a Scottish surname I'm not sure about his records. I can see that, beyond a few generations, it is doubtful that any records exist.
I even doubt that his surname lasts beyond a few generations.
However, is there anyone who can tell me if aboriginal births, marriages and deaths were recorded in the 'normal' manner in the past, since the advent of European record keeping?
If so, can any kind person please point me in the right direction for records?
I am asking Roots Chat because so many people, living in Australia, have been able to help me with English records and it is the best site ever for 'people in the know' to get together with information.
My thanks to you.
Dave in Launceston, Tasmania
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Re: "Real Australian" Records
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 July 07 03:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,
While on the National Archives of Australia site yesterday I noticed there is a section under Family History, re tracing your aboriginal heritage.
It may just offer suggestions etc as to where to look but it's a place to start.
Hope it helps your search - good luck,  Sashar
Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth

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Re: "Real Australian" Records
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 July 07 03:39 BST (UK) »
G'day Uncle Gromit

Additionally, this national site may assist you -

http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/AborigPages/History.html

Aboriginal History
Aboriginal Studies WWW Virtual Library
The Internet Guide to Aboriginal Studies

You are probably well aware that the Aboriginal and Islander 'family' histories are very complicated because of their cross 'adoptions'.

Hope this assists.

EDO

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Re: "Real Australian" Records
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 July 07 03:41 BST (UK) »
There is also some information available at the Qld State Library
http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/  & I would think very likely at same in each state. It would probably be useful to check the library in the state where your friend's ancestors lived.

Trish
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Re: "Real Australian" Records
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 July 07 03:46 BST (UK) »
Hello again Dave

This was the site I was trying to direct you to -

http://www.aiatsis.gov.au/library/family_history_tracing

Hope it helps.

EDO 8) 8) 8)

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Re: "Real Australian" Records
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 July 07 06:34 BST (UK) »
I knew that if I asked my question with the 'people in the know' then I would be sure to get some good answers.
Firstly, my thanks to the webmaster for moving my enquiry to a better location than the one I had selected.
Then my thanks to you people with information that we can now check.
I realise that it's not going to be easy ... but, hopefully it will be fun in the searching and enlightening in what we find.
I shall leave this query open for a few more days just in case any fresh advice comes along
My thanks to you all.
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Re: "Real Australian" Records
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 July 07 08:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave

Have you considered that your mate's Scottish surname may be as a result of some European ancestor. And if that is so, then following that lead at the same time as his Aboriginal heritage may help to tie pieces together.

Just a thought - good hunting to you both

Cheers

Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
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Re: "Real Australian" Records
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 July 07 06:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,

While working in the State library in Perth I had aboriginals looking for their history.  There are a lot of early books written on aboriginals and their relations.  Go and check at your State library.

Ros
Bell Coatbridge Sct
Cassels Dunbarton Lnk Sti Sct
Heggie Lnk Sct
Lusty Gls Eng Lnk Sct
McLuckie Stirling Sct
Moss Leek Sts Eng Vic Aust
Pride Gls Eng Geelong Vic Aust

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 July 07 15:59 BST (UK) »
http://www.ausanthrop.net/index.php

This site has a forum board.

ChristineR  :)
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