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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 July 07 18:27 BST (UK) »
Abedour is in Fife Abelour is in Aberdeenshire

1861 Registration number 168B ED14 page 31
Old Machar Aberdeenshire
Maywell Street

Donald White age 50 Cow per born Durness Sutherland
Ann wife age 48 Aberdeen
Jane daughter age 14 Helmsdale Sutherland would this be the 4 year old female listed as John servant on the 51 census?
Margt dau age 6 Tarbet Ross


1861
Registration Number 168b ED2 page 11
Old machar Aberdeenshire

Address Profr Manse

Majory White age 18 nurse maid born helmsdale Sutherlandshire withe the Fuller or Faller family

1861
Registration Number 168B ED 1 page 22
Old Machar
Old Aberdeen
Address 16 Chanonry
Ann White age 16 born Helmsdale SutherS domestic servant with the Smith family Minister of Old Machar (1st Charge)


1861 Registration Number 168B ED 14 page 31

Maywell Street

John White age 20  Head born Helmsdale Sutherland iron Worker Jas M Morrison Engineer King Edward Aberdeen age 25 lodger
1851

Parish Number 168 A ED 2 page 50
Aberdeen St Clements Aberdeenshire
Address St Clements Street

Whyte

Donald age 40 born Sutherlandshire occupation Solman? Baler
Ann wife age 38 Aberdeen

Children are named White but the parents are Ann and Donald
John son age 10 Sutherlandshire
Marjory dau age 8 Sutherlandshire
Ann dau age 6 Sutherlandshire
John White female servant age 4 ??

John White age 31 visitor Salman fisher Southerlandshire

1841

Loth Sutherland
Helmsdale Shore Street

Parish Number 54 ED

Donald Whyte age 30  born Scotland  M S
Ann Whyte wife age 25
John Whyte son age 2 months
Alexr Mustard M S
William Patent M S
Davis Reed M S
George Reed M S

1841
Parish Number 168B
Old Machar
Aberdeenshire

Address Jacks Brae
Andrew Pittendrigh age 55 Blacksmith
Helen wife age 55 Aberdeenshire
Margaret Taylor age 50 Aberdeenshire
James Ross age 15 Cotton P L W


1841

Old Machar Aberdeenshire
Parish Number 168B
Address Skin Street

James Pittendrigh age 50 Carpenter J all born Aberdeenshire
Christian wife age 50
William son age 20 Carpenter J

these are also listed with them

Aberdeen Robert age 20 cabinet maker J
Sophia wife age 20

Anderson Mary age 30 dressmaker
george son age 8 months

Ann Cummine age 60

Margaret McCombie age 10

John Mitchell age 20 Joiner J

Westland

Jean female age 75 ind
Margaret  age 80  ind
Jean age 40 female
Alexander age 15 Joiner appr


1841

Parish Number 248
Tyrie
Aberdeenshire
Address New Pitsligo Low Street

Pittendreich

John age 32 lab all born Aberdeenshire
Isabel wife age 30
George son age 8
Jean dau age 6
Charles son age 4
Margaret dau age 1

1861
Registration Number 221 ED 1 page 17

Methlick Abedeenshire
Address Cairns

Pittendreigh
John age 68  farmer of 45 acres employing 1 man 1 woman born Methlick
Charlotte wife age 45 Fyvie Aberdeenshire
Mary dau age 20 children born Methlick
John son age 18
Margaret dau age 16
Jessie dau age 15
William son age 11
James son age 9
Alexander son age 7
David son age 4

1861

Registration number 226 ED 2 page 13
Newhills Aberdeenshire

Address Stoneywood Works

Pittendreigh

James age 50 born Aberdeen Overseer paper cutter machines
Jane wife age 46 Newhills
Hellen dau age 20 paper roller Newhills
Jane dau age 18 Newhills   Card packer paper Manuf
Mary Ann dau age 12 Newhills

1861
Registration Number 168A ED 3 Page 10

St Nicholas Aberdeen

Address 71 no street name

Pittendreigh

Janet head age 59 born Aberdeen winder of yarn
John age 40 Brother occupation Dyer Aberdeen
James age 11 nephew Aberdeen

Madaleine Ross age 27 dau occupation Heckler born Aberdeen

Helen Chadwick Niece occupation Heckler age 17

George Sangster boarder
Ann Murray visitor age 36 shoemakers wife Aberdeen

1861
Registration Number 210 ED 6 Page 4

King Edward Aberdeen
Address Tilly Ho

George Pittendreigh ploughman age 28 Aberdeen

with Charles Watt farmer of 204 acres  employing 6 labs Veterinary surgeon family plus other workers

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 July 07 20:19 BST (UK) »
Abedour is in Fife Abelour is in Aberdeenshire

Hi Kate and Pam,

Can't help with the Pittendreighs I'm afraid but just wanted to let you know about Aberdour...the Parish of Aberdour in Aberdeenshire is defined here http://www.urie.demon.co.uk/genuki/ABD/Aberdour/description.html

Elaine  :)
Mitchell, Turner, Henderson, Archibald, Smith, Walker, Burgess, Alexander, Margetts, Joss - Aberdeenshire
Proctor, Morrison, Henderson, Burgess, McWilliam, Green, Grant, Young, Dey, Allan - Banffshire
Proctor, Logie, Grant - Moray
McRae - Ross & Cromarty and Invernesshire
Clunie, Philp - Fife



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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 July 07 21:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Elaine,
I have had a look at the website.  Now I will look at the map!It is Aber as in mouth of a river.  The Welsh for mouth of the river is also Aber.  My granny was Welsh hence the interest. 
What a lovely photo of your Granny, by the way!
Kate.

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #12 on: Friday 13 July 07 05:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Elaine

Had a look at  Aberdour very interesting the Pittendreighs all all the varients seem to live around Pitsligo,Tyrie King Edward area.

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #13 on: Friday 13 July 07 07:04 BST (UK) »
Kate,

It appears that your interest is in trying to find out more about Ann PITTENDREIGH.
Quote from: kate
Ann Pittendreigh married Donald Ross Whyte in Old Machar in 1840 and we know what happened to them after that time.   I understand she was born in about 1816 in Aberdour (not sure where that is) but we know nothing of her family.

In the interests of avoiding duplication of effort, I mention that this family is also being discussed on the Sutherland board at:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,243958

From the IGI on the FamilySearch site at:
http://www.familysearch.org
one finds two records of the marriage (or proclamation of banns).
Ann PITTENDREIGH & Donald WHYTE, 13 Jan 1840, Old Machar, Aberdeen
Ann PITTENDRICH & Donald WHYTE, 13 Jan 1840, St Nicholas, Aberdeen

Have you looked at these marriage/banns OPR records on the (pay per view) site ScotlandsPeople at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.co.uk
They may well not provide any further clues but, if you haven't yet viewed them, you won't know unless and until you look at them.

Kate, 100% of the 1841 census for Aberdeenshire has been transcribed for FreeCEN at:
http://www.freecen.org.uk/
And over 75% of the 1851 has also been transcribed.
You may wish to search there yourself.

A search on that site for PITTEN* in 1841  brings up 119 results (spellings include PITTENDRICH, PITTENDRIGH, PITTENDRIECH, PITTENDREICH, PITTENDREIGH).  There are also 4 PETTENDRIGH and 1 PETTENDRIECH.  And a few other variations - PITENDRICH 6, PITENDREACH 1, PITENDRIGH 1 ...
There are also quite a few people of the name (however spelled) in 1851 - but very few with birthplace Aberdour.

Yes, there are parishes named Aberdour in both Aberdeen-shire
http://www.urie.demon.co.uk/genuki/ABD/Aberdour/index.html
and in Fife
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/FIF/parishes/Aberdour/index.htm
(I know this to my embarrassment as I once ordered in to my local LDS FHC the parish register for Aberdour ABD instead of Aberdour FIF!).

Regards,

JAP

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 July 07 07:17 BST (UK) »
I know you are looking for Ann before 1841 just trying to link the families to see which is hers do  you have the marriage certificate to see the fathers name?? you seemed interested in The Streatham Pittendreighs


1881 Streatham London reg district Wansworth

2 Leigham Lane

Alexander Pittendreigh age 39 born Aberdeenshire Scotland Indian Rubber worker.
Sarah Pittendreigh age 50 wife Polemarsh Essex  Coffee House Keeper
Alexandra Pittendreigh age 7 son Streatham
William Pittendreigh age 6 son Streatham
Marie Letitia Jasper age 20 step daughter Helper (em servant) Streatham Surrey
Eliza Sarah stepdaughter age 16 Streatham Surrey Helper(em Servant)

Florence Gillett age 7 visitor Dulwich Surrey

Here is the  son  of Alexander and Sarah born Streatham


1901 Croydon Surrey RG13/6432 folio 18 page 21

Thornton Road
Selina Underwood age 60 head widow Spilsbury Oxfordshire

Alexander Pittendrigh son in law age 27 Stratham Cycle
Mary A dau age 26 northleigh Witney
Grace B grandaughter age 8 Streatham Surrey
Hilda grandaughter age 7 monthsCroydon


1881 Streatham Surrey
17 Wells Lane

Christian Pittendreigh age 61 widow born Aberdeenshire  Scotland no occupation
William son age 35 born Scotland lab
May dau age 21 Streatham Surrey no occupation Mary from 1871?

There is a George fits in with 1851

1881 Croydon Surrey
Oval Road 2 Oval Place

Geo. Pittendrigh age 32 born Scotland Gardener
Elizabeth wife age 38 Farnham
Lilly dau age 6 Ballham Surrey
Geo. son age 3 Ballham Surrey

1881 The adults are all from Aberdeenshire

Toxteth Park Lancashire

124 Hill Street
Watson
Alexandra age 36 Engineer Aberdeenshire
Ellen wife age 40 Aberdeenshire
Jane dau age 20 Aberdeenshire
Alexander son age 17 Aberdeenshire Engine fitter
William son age 9 Aberdeenshire
Mary E Watson age 6 dau  Liverpool
James P son age 3 Liverpool

Jane Pittendrigh grandmother age 80 born Aberdeenshire widow

Jemima Watson age 32 married sister in law born Aberdeenshire
Mary E Watson age 4 niece Liverpool
Robert T Watson nephew age 2 London Middlesex
Edward H Guy Boarder ship Steward

1881 Straton Durham
19 Wm Street

John Brown age 27 Aberdeenshire gen lab
Ann Brown age 67 widow born Aberdeenshire mother

John Pittendrill age 30 married Aberdeenshire gen lab



1891 Streatham Surrey RG12/ 457 folio 144 page 78
maybe Alexander and Christians son?

James White head age 48 Gen lab these are all born SomersetHarriet age 46
Bertha dau age 26 dressmaker
William son age 17 gen lab
Jane dau age 13
Emily dau age 11

Arthur Pettendrigh age 31 Scotland lodger gen lab'

1891 RG12/458 folio 87 page 85 Streatham London reg district Wandsworth

184 Sunny Head?? Road

Christena Pettendry mother age 74 widow born Scotland
May Walker daughter age 28 married Streatham

The enumerator has linked them with the Hill family  different numbered house

May Pittendrigh or Pittendrige married George Philip Walker 1889 June quarter Wandsworth 1 d 1025  Greater London/London/Surrey

1901 RG13/477 folio 11 page 14 Streatham London
Christiana Pittendrigh age 81 Aberdeen Scotland widow
Willian son age 50 Painter Aberdeen Scotland single



Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 July 07 08:29 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kate,

Continuing on with thoughts from my earlier post.

You seem to have, in a sense, the worst of both worlds  ;)  The marriage of Donald & Ann being in 1840 in Scotland, the only record would be in church registers - as statutory registration did not start in Scotland (unlike England & Wales) until 1855.  And the death of Ann was presumably in England (you say they moved south) so the death cert won't have the wonderful information (names of parents) which is on Scottish certificates  :(

If I were you (and if you haven't already done so), I would certainly go to the ScotlandsPeople site and look at the two OPR records for the marriage/banns.

However - I am wondering why you say that you understand that Ann was born ca 1816 in Aberdour?

From the census information posted by kind RootsChatters, it would seem that Ann was born ca 1813 in Aberdeen ...

There is a possibility in the IGI on FamilySearch.  It is under PITTENDREACH - which, unfortunately, is not combined in the IGI with PITTENDRIGH & variants.

It is the following (name of mother not given unfortunately!):
Anne PITTENDREACH, bap 17 April 1814, father James, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.

St Nicholas is in the Parish of Aberdeen, and is where one of the marriage entries is.

So it might also be worth looking at this OPR birth/baptism record to see if there are any clues linking it to the marriage/banns records.

Regards,

JAP
PS: A description of the parish of Aberdeen is on GENUKI at:
http://www.urie.demon.co.uk/genuki/ABD/Aberdeen/description.html

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 July 07 08:50 BST (UK) »
JAP,
Thanks for your reply and interest.  I have a copy of the marriage entries for Old Machar where it states:
[/i]Donald Whyte, Cooper, Virginia Street in the Parish of St. Nicholas and Ann Pittendreigh, Westfield in this parish, signified their purpose of marriage, by Mr Alexr. McKenzie ***
& being thrice proclaimed, they were married on the 13th Jan 1840 by the Revd. Archibald (?) Cook Minister of North Church Inverness.

Thanks for the pointer to Freecen pages, I will have a search.
Kate.

Have just received your new message.

Firstly - I seem to have written confusing info!  Donald and Ann did not as far as we know move south, their son John moved to Croydon where he married in 1866.  His neighbour in the 1881 census was George Pittendreigh (just been sent that by down-under along with lots more- brilliant!)

Secondly - not sure why I put 1816 Aberdour - had it as a query along with 1813 Aberdeen - should have checked it out!

To be honest, I only knew about this Scottish connection about a week ago & have been so flooded by information from kind, generous peoplethat I need to have a good sort out to underatand it all!!

Thanks again, Kate.

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 July 07 08:54 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kate,

Well, if you can find the death of Ann (PITTENDRIGH) WHYTE in Scotland, you might well get the name and occupation of her father and the name and maiden surname of her mother.

Well worth a search on ScotlandsPeople!

JAP