"Archers Farm" - Aldenham - Help Please.

[kayfr]

Hi can anybody help me please in finding out whether there was a farm called Archers in Aldenham.  I ordered my great grandfather's birth certificate and it says that he was born in 1859 at Archer's Farm, Aldenham.  I have tried looking on google, looking at old maps and even asking people who have lived in Aldenham all their lives if anybody has actually heard of the place but I cannot find it anywhere.  If anybody has any suggestions on where I could look next it would be gratefully received.
Many thanks in advance.

[carol8353]

Hi Kayfr

I don't suppose the family still lived there 2 years later when the 1861 census was taken?

I've just looked at the description of each of the 4 enumeration districts in Aldenham in 1861 and did not come across Archers Farm 

I'll trawl through the censuses later to see if it comes to light then.

Carol

[kayfr]

Thanks Carol
All I know is that is must of been there in 1859.  Your help is much appreciated.
Kay

[carol8353]

Hello Kayfr

What is the family's name? Do you have them in 1861?

Would you like one of us to look for them?

Carol

[kayfr]

Hi Carol

The family name is Rumney.  I know that they were in Aldenham and surrounding areas in the 1840's onwards.  I am not sure about earlier because I need to go to where the parish registers are kept.

Many thanks

Kay

[Rick]

Hi Kay

These are the only RUMNEYS in Aldenham in 1861.  Addresses in country areas are a bit sparse and in this case, all that is given is "Round Bush" Aldenham.  There is a pub in the village called the Round Bush, but areas around a local landmark often took the landmark's name and this family is definitely not living at the pub.  (Not unless half the village lived there!)

RG9/832 F6 P5
Round Bush
Aldenham
Herts

RUMNEY
Joseph, Head, Married, 39, Farm Labourer, b Hatfield
Anna, Wife, 36, b Sandridge
Wm. Son, 19, Farm Labourer, b Shenley
George, Son, 14, Labourer's boy, b Aldenham
Ann, Dau, 11, Scholar, b ditto
Arthur, Son, 9, Scholar, b ditto
Walter, Son, 3, Scholar, b ditto
Charles, Son, 1, b ditto

Herts Parish Registers have been deposited at HALS.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24217.0.html

I have checked the BVRI and have found the following.

Joseph RUMNEY to Hannah EDMUNDS      
Married - 11 Oct 1840 - Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire
Husband's Father:   John RUMNEY
Wife's Father:   William EDMUNDS

Wheathampstead is very close to Sandridge where Anna/Hannah was born.  The marriage date would also fit with the birth of the eldest son William.  I couldn't find a baptism for Joseph Senior but I did find the following baptisms for the children of Joseph and Hannah.  All at Aldenham.

James - 3 Mar 1844
George - 3 May 1846
George Joseph - 1 Aug 1847
Ann Elizabeth - 7 Oct 1849
Arthur - 18 Jan 1852
Lavinia - 13 Aug 1854
Walter John - 21 Sep 1856
Charles Henry - 19 Jul 1859
Joseph Thomas - 27 Apr 1862

Rick

[kayfr]

Hi Rick
Thank you very much for the information.  Round Bush is actually a hamlet just outside of Aldenham and the pub is still there!  They do very good food.  I think I need to go back a bit earlier.  I have got some of the information already but the extra comes in handy.  Wheathampstead is only about a twenty minute drive from Radlett where I live.
My father actually worked for a firm based in Round Bush until he died last December so it is a coincidence that his family used to live in that area.

Kay

[Rick]

Round Bush is actually a hamlet just outside of Aldenham and the pub is still there!  They do very good food. 

Hi Kay

I was asking my husband this as he comes from Watford, and he mentioned that Round Bush is actually a hamlet.  I had never noticed, despite the fact that we have had a drink or three in the pub!

Would you like earlier census information?

Rick

[kayfr]

Yes earlier census info would be greatly appreciated.  Where my father worked was opposite the pub.  He was a landscape gardenenr.  In fact he used to have half a bitter shandy on Friday lunchtimes!!  In fact I live in Radlett and it only takes me 15 minutes to walk from my house to Round Bush and when I was younger it was my local as it was walkable.

Kay