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1861 Census Lookup Request - TIMS
« on: Tuesday 17 July 07 12:55 BST (UK) »
Hi,
can someone find this family for me?
Joseph TIMS-age 63-Labourer-born Ridgemont
MaryAnn-age 62-wife-born Crawley ,Beds
Thomas-son-age 29-labourer-born Woburn
John-son-age 28-labourer-born Woburn
Joseph-son-age 23-Blacksmith-born Woburn
Elizabeth-daughter-Age 18-born Woburn

In 1851 they lived at Back Farm,Woburn .However I'ld be suprised if they are still there as Joseph the elder and his sons Thomas and John were convicted of stealing a few potatoes from the Duke of Bedford.So I suspect they are "persona non gratis".However they might suprise me and still be there.
Trisha ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 1861 census lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 13:05 BST (UK) »
There's a possible Thomas

1861 Canal Street, Spake Yard, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire
Thomas Timms Head M 30 Smith's Labourer Beds Woburn
Mary Ann Wife M 30 Pillowcase maker " Ridgmount
RG9; Piece: 1005; Folio: 58; Page: 2

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1861 census lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 13:08 BST (UK) »
Falmer, Sussex
Joseph Timms Head M 61 Ag Lab Beds Ridgemount
Mary A Wife M 58 Beds Crawley
William Son Un 23 Ag Lab " Woburn
Henry Son Un 21 " " "
RG9; Piece: 590; Folio: 46; Page: 22
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1861 census lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 13:16 BST (UK) »
I'm sorry maybe I have this wrong, I thought it seemed strange that you don't have the two sons in your family. 

I can find the family I gave in the 1851 census at Park Farm Woburn, names spelt Timms, coincidentally they have the same names as yours but with the addition of William and Henry.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1861 census lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 13:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary
Yes thats them.Sometimes the surname is spelt TIMMS,It certainly is in my branch of the tree.Joseph is from a branch a bit further out on my TIMMS line.However Joseph spelt his surname TIMS in the 1851 census so I kept it.Sorry if it caused confusion.I didn't know about William and Henry.Someone else transcribed the 1851 census for me  and I know there was one son age 8 they couldn't read.Could  you transcribe me the 1851 census as it looks like the've made a mistake with it and I didn't get the full info before?
Many thanks
Trisha ;D ;D

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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Request - TIMS
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 14:09 BST (UK) »
The family I have found is most certainly TIMMS.

Park Farm, Woburn, Bedfordshire
Joseph Timms Head M 53 Labourer Beds Ridgmount
Maryanne Wife M 52 Wife Beds Crawley
Thos Son U 19 Labourer Beds Woburn
John Son U 18 Labourer " "
Joseph Son 13 Blacksmith " "
William Son 11 Scholar " "
Henry Son 8 " " "
Elizth Grd. Daur 8 Scholar " "
HO107; Piece: 1755; Folio: 130; Page: 27
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Request - TIMS
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 14:16 BST (UK) »
1841 Cottage, Woburn, Bedfordshire
All born in County
Joseph Timms 40 Labourer
MA 39
Mary A 16
James 14
Thos 10
John 8
Joseph 3
William 1
HO107; Piece 5; Book: 39;  Folio: 5; Page: 5
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Request - TIMS
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 14:25 BST (UK) »
James gone into hiding in 1851, although looking at this family in 1861 I wouldn't have thought that Elizabeth would be their child, maybe there's another older son to Joseph and Mary Ann

Falmer, Sussex
James Timms Head M 32 Ag Lab Bedfordshire Woburn
Anne Wife M 32 Buckinghamshire
William Son 10 Ag Lab Bedfordshire Woburn
John son 7 Scholar " "
Sarah daur 5 Sussex Falmer
Mary 1m " "
RG9; Piece: 590; Folio: 44; Page: 18
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Request - TIMS
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 14:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary,
many thanks.
Having looked on the 1881 census it looks as if they all "escaped" to the Brighton and Hove area and started a new life.I've found William's family and Henry is with his uncle Charles Turney back in Bedfordshire(so perhaps William's mothers maiden name was Turney).John is in Hove with 2 daughters stating he is still married but with no wife living with him.As yet I can't find Joseph the Blacksmith.
Trisha ;D ;D ;D
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