John Butler

[Julie5]

Hi
I am Lookin for John Butler Born 1848 Battle,Sussex
Thankyou
Julie

[bekahsgran]

Hi
Here he is in 1871 RG10 Piece 867 Folio 66 Page 38
3 Bromley Rd, Richmond Surrey
Gordon   H        Hd 59 Bookmaker b Mdx England
               Elizth Wife 55 b Surrey Richmond
               Henry Son 11 Scholar b Surrey Richmond
               Annie Daur 9 Scholar b Surrey Richmond
               Florence daur 4 Scholar b Surrey Richmond
               Percy son 1 b Surrey Richmond
BUTLER JOHN lodger 22 Printers compositor b Sussex Battle
Dix Alfred lodger 24 Ostler b illegible

Maybe someone can check the 1861 for him with his parents, but i haven't got that one
Anne

[Julie5]

Hi Anne
Thats Great thankyou
Regards
Julie

[bekahsgran]

Hi
Would you like me to look on 1881/91 or 1901? whilst I'm at it?
Anne

[Julie5]

Hi Anne
That would be great
Thankyou
Julie

[bekahsgran]

Hi
Checked the census but could only find them on the 1881, will have to have a good search of the others.
1881
35 Brooksby St, Islington, London
Butler John P 33 Printers Reader b Battle Sussex
          Welbelove Wife 30 b Stroud, Surrey (i think this is most probably supposed to be Strand)
          Frank son 6 b Islington
          Percy J son 5 b Islington
          Elenor daur 3 b Islington
Harriss Richard 39 boarder b Hitchin, Beds

Note the unusual christian name of his wife.
I have a family on the 1901 census that I think may be them, the children match except for Elenor. On the 1901 a girl the same age born in Islington but called MEDA. The wife in 1901 is a widow and is listed as HARRIET W could be that Welbelove was her second christian name, what do you think?
Also in 1901 The son Percy J is listed as a Print Warehouse Asst, where his father used to be a Print compositor, do you think it could be them?
Anne

[Julie5]

Hi Anne
Thankyou for the quick response
I have never seen that Christian name before,I wonder where that came from  lol,that would make an interesting story in itself.
I should imagine it is the same family
Will have a look through it
Thankyou for your help
Kind regards
Julie

[Chris in 1066Land]

hi Julie5

Here is the 1851 census entry for your John Butler

HO107/1636/ Folio318/ Page 108 - Battle Town

BUTLER Frank, Head, marr, 46, Ironmonger JM, born Sedlescombe
...........  Catherine, Wife, Marr, 38, born Portsmouth
...........  Kate, Dau, Unm, 11, born Battle
...........  James, Son, Unm, 9, born Battle
...........  Harold, Son, Unm, 7, born Battle
...........  Jane, Dau, Unm, 5, born Battle
...........  John P, Son, Unm, 3, born Battle
...........  Mary E, Dau, Unm, 2months, born Battle

As Kate is 11, they must be on the 1841 as well

Chris in 1066

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again

Yes, they are in the 1841 census for Battle

HO107/ 1105/ 7 - Battle (no street address given)

BUTLER Frank, 32, Ironmonger
...........  Catherine, 26
...........  Kate, 1
...........  Jane, 33, Housekeeper

All born in Sussex

Hope that helps

Chris in 1066