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VARNEY - Clophill, Bedford
« on: Thursday 19 July 07 23:01 BST (UK) »
William Varney married Ruth Underwood, Luton district Sept 1871 could poss be Flitton or Clophill Beds

David Varney married Elizabeth Keech (Kuch) 9.5.1843 poss Clophill.

Would like, if poss, dates, church, occ of parents etc and witnesses.

Also death of Elizabeth Varney nee Keech (Kuch) 1861-71 - Clophill

Thank you

Carol


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Re: Varney, Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 July 07 23:52 BST (UK) »
Unless someone here has access to those parish records you will have to get the certificates for that information.
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Re: Varney, Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 July 07 00:18 BST (UK) »


Hi Patrish


I was rather hoping someone might be going to Beds Record Office.

Carol

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Re: Varney, Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 July 07 06:24 BST (UK) »
.... not in the next 3 weeks, I'm off to Canada...

The IGI does have the marriage of David Varney to Elizabeth Kuch on 9/5/1843 at Clophill. It names his father as Richard Varney & her father as Joseph Kuch. 

Clophill & Flitton are in Ampthill RD, so if you have the marriage index in Luton RD, then it is most likely they did not marry in those Parrishes.

1881 census says Ruth Varney was born Pulloxhill which again is in Ampthill RD
1871 has family of Underwwods incl Ruth all born Pulloxhill living in Luton. Her parents are William & Hannah. 

John
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Re: Varney, Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 July 07 09:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol
Your Ruth links to my Underwoods of Maulden/Pulloxhill/Clophill and Luton. I notice there are 2 Ruth Underwoods born Pulloxhill around the same time the one John found is Abbott by 1881 so not yours. Yours is with grandparents John and Emelia Underwood in 51-71  - John a shoemaker is brother to my ggg grandfather Thomas also a shoemaker. There is a married son George with them on each census (he is also a shoemaker) but no sign of his wife. Do you have all this and were you hoping to establish that George is Ruth's father?
If so there is an extracted baptism for her on the IGI

Ruth Underwood baptised Pulloxhill  8 Feb 1846 mother Lydia Underwood

Lydia is John and Emelia's unmarried daughter who is with them in 51

Jan ;)



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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: VARNEY - Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 July 07 22:01 BST (UK) »


Hello John and Janan

My interest is in the Varney family, I like to have the details of marriages, dates, occ and fathers occ. Seeing Ruths bap of 8.2.1846 only gives mothers name do I assume correctly that Lydia was unmarried?

Thanks for your help

Carol

John, I also have family in Canada if you fancy spending time in a records office there  -  only joking, have a good holiday.

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Re: VARNEY - Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 July 07 22:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol
Yes Lydia was still unmarried in 51
Regards
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: VARNEY - Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 July 07 00:00 BST (UK) »


Hi Jan

Thank you,


Carol

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Re: VARNEY - Clophill, Bedford
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 July 07 00:39 BST (UK) »
As John said both Clophill and Flitton are in Ampthill Registration District, not Luton. And Clophill and Flitton marriages up to 1885 have been extracted onto the IGI, and they're not there.

Without knowing which parish in Luton registration district they married in, with so many parishes in that district it's a bit like asking someone to look for a needle in a haystack in Bedford Record Office.

For the 1871 marriage it's probably a case of buying the certificate to get the detail you're seeking.

The 1843 marriage which is on the IGI is different - if all else fails you could always order the microfilm from your nearest LDS Family History centre to get the rest of the information.

Have you found the death of Elizabeth Varney in the GRO indices - available free at http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx

I can't see her on FreeBMD

Regards

David
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