And then
They may also have married later on. They seem pretty consistent with the November date, just the year has changed (or is they typos!)
Church marriages by all denominations were registered by the person who performed the ceremony, these records were forwarded to the registrar at regular intervals. (after July 1853) The registrar did call for details of previous marriage records to be forwarded to them, but not all ministers may have felt inclined to do so. Records in the Victorian BDM indexes prior to July 1853 are church records and hold little information.
I have also read of bogus marriage celebrants, accepting a few bob to perform a marriage. Who knows, this may have happened - these are not going to show up in records.
Our widowed GG grandma had five kids before she remarried ten years after the first child with her new beau, and he died that same year. No marriage was ever found for her first relationship, though she consistently claimed a marriage year and place which also happened to be the same year and place her father died.
The eldest son then went on to live with a girl, but they never actually married until before the birth of their second child. On birth certificates, over 20
years (11 kids including a set of twins), his wife claimed a marriage in a place far away where a half-uncle lived, and always predated it a year before the birth of the first child.
Some access to church records can be had by contacting the church involved.
He died 1918, aged 69, parents unknown, Bairnsdale, Vic
reg number:3646
Do you have the details of this death certificate? Because you said in your original post
WILLIAM HOGAN 1850-1900
and there is no Vic death 1900. Then you said 1918, given you by a grandson of that William Hogan.
So what does this say about his marriage? does it name Leila and his children?
Enid said..
So I don't think I will find his parents? but I will look for a birth for William about 1848-1860.
The only births in Victoria for the time span are the three that I posted earlier.
Repeating post here..
Just further to that, one of the girl's deaths gives her father as William Patrick - this may or may not be right. There is this birth at "Sand'" which would be Sandridge which was Port Melbourne I think. Anyway it is the registration place, not necessarily the birthplace. If they were Irish, this would account for the discepancy in ages of William. No pun intended there, from experience my lot were shocking with their ages.
William Patrick HOGAN, birth reg 1860, Sand, reg no:10417
father: William
mother: Mary MALONE
can probably rule out william patrick hogan born 1860 to hogan and malone as he died in 1903 aged 43
regards jenn
other two...
1854 at "Sand" William Long Hogan, father Thomas, mother Margaret Long reg 1789
1854 at Melb - William Thomas Hogan, father William, mother Bridget Hunt.
reg 6287
then no more reg at Melbourne until 1869
certainly sound Irish! it was on Selina's death that she gave her father's name as William Patrick.
ChristineR
