Kilbarchan families-Morrow, Lavery, Little

[runningbear]

i too have been watching patiently, as my mcgourlick married mary warnock in 1869 and stayed next door to william lavery at 28 napier street linwood.

now ann warnock was the daughter of john and mary whitelaw, with john, mary had at least 3 children, robert, john and ann.

john married mary in 1821 but he must have died as she married david nesbit in 1838, glasgow. she had at least 2 children with him. mary and jean.

1851 census..124 main street, glasgow

david...age 50...carter...west lothian
mary...age 46...mearns, ayrshire
mary...age 10
jean...age 8
robert warnock...stepson...age 22...cart servant
john warnock...stepson...age 18...cart servant
ann warnock...stepdaughter...age 16...house servant

all children born glasgow


1861 census...18 north street, glasgow

mary nisbet...age 58
mary nisbet...age 21
jean nisbet...age 18...weaver

1861 census...80 main street, anderston, glasgow

john lavery...age 27...carter...linwood
ann lavery...age 26
mary lavery...age 3
margaret...age 1

all born glasgow unless stated otherwise

1871 census...66 bishop street, anderston, glasgow

ann lavery...age 32...stick breaker
mary lavery...age 13
margaret lavery...age 11
william lavery...age 7
david lavery...age 2
mary nesbit...boarder...age 30

1881 census...30 napier street, linwood

william lavery...age 71...retired labourer...ireland
thomas lavery...age 7...linwood


hope this makes sense


Joe

[runningbear]

another wee bit.....

almost sure that mary lavery marries william reid.

1881 census...41 richard street, anderston glasgow

william reid...age 23...iron dresser...ireland
mary reid...age 23...linwood
hugh reid...age 2...glasgow
william reid...age 8 months...glasgow
william lavery..brother-in-law..17..road steam engine fireman


1891 census...13 union place, anderston glasgow

william...age 33...iron dresser
mary...age 33
hugh...age 12...message boy
william...age 10
david...age 5

Joe

[puppygirl]

Wow! You've all been so busy while I've been in bed! Can't say how impressed and grateful I am for everyone's interest and help.
The Lavery/Morrow puzzle seems clear now, if I could get hold of the death certs of John Lavery and Margaret (Morrow) in Australia, I'd be home and dry.
If John married Margaret in NSW in 1870, then he was a bigamist as well as an absent dad since the first Mrs Lavery, Ann (Warnock) didn't die til 1872 in Barnhill. The saddest bit about her, apart from her occupation as a "stickbreaker", was that no-one even bothered to put a cause of death on her certificate. One of their children, David, "pauper",died aged 10 in East Park Cottages.

You are spot-on, Joekar, with the Warnock link to Mary Lavery Reid. She married my GGrandfather, William Reid, in 1887. That is my direct line - my maiden name is Reid, and that is why I'm so interested in the fate of my GGGranny Ann and my errant GGGrandfather John Lavery. The Nisbet connection threw me a bit, I wondered why they started appearing in census entries, til I found the remarriage.

I'll need all morning to digest and write out all the info which you've all provided. Bang goes the housework!

[tidybooks]

Hi Puppygirl and Monica and Joe,

As always answers make more questions,

John Lavery and Margaret Morrow had 4 kids but 2 of them died the same day, 07 Dec 1885, I suspect in NSW in Australia.  John Lavery (11) and Robert Lavery ( entries on LDS, but does not give place of death sorry. I know they are submitted records and they maybe incorrect.

Can anybody find reason for death on same day?

Tom

[MonicaL]

Puppygirl

Why don't you try putting a new post on the emigrants to Australia board here on RootsChat (with a link to this post so that people can see what has already been found and discussed). See www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,165.0.html
 
Hopefully people with access to Australian resources may be able to provide more info or suggest other avenues for you to persue there to follow up on John Lavery and Margaret Morrow.

Regards.

Monica

[runningbear]

forgot to mention, that when your mary lavery was staying in 66 bishop street, glasgow, her future husband was also in the street!!!

34c bishop street, anderston glasgow

hugh reid...age 37...labourer...ire
mary ann reid...age 36...ire
edward reid...age 19...labourer...ire
william reid...age 13...labourer...ire
hugh reid...age 9 months...glasgow


Joe

[davieboy]

Hi folks,


just a wee bit of information about Linwood that might help you.

Before the Parish Church in Linwood was built, Linwood was part of Kilbarchan Parish even though it is around 5 miles away from there.

Secondly, there are still Reids who live in Napier St most notably the people who own the detached house on the corner of Dunlop St. I also believe that they recently sold a house at the very bottom of Napier St (backing on to the bowling club) to the Church of Scotland to be used as a manse by the local minister

[puppygirl]

Hi Daveyboy, thanks for that. I'm think the Reids who came from the William Reid/Mary Lavery marriage stayed around Anderston, I don't know of any who lived Kilbarchan way.

Re the original puzzle of John Lavery disappearing to Australia. I found details of his marriage to a Margaret Merrow in NSW, 1882, and the deaths of 2 of their children in 1885. I've ordered transcriptions of all the certificates to finally confirm whether this is the same John who left Ann in Glasgow around 1870. Hopefully the marriage cert should name both their sets of parents.
If it doesn't, then I'm back to the drawing board trying to find John and where and when he died.

Can't wait for my trip to the Mitchell on August 12th!!