Williams?

[ovas]

Well Happy Birthday !!!!!!
Take time & celibrate

[annettechivrall]

Hi
 have I spoken with you before if not please get in contact anyway. this is my mums grandparents Leonard Williams & sarah ann Miller . I have alot of info but need to be confirmed on the williams side alos have some picturers
look forward to your email  Groovyachivrall@btinternet.com   
cheers  annette

[An65]

Glad you made it here annette

[An65]

Didnt get the chance to do anymore research due to birthday celebrations, had a great time, and now back to normality

I shall go and have a nose about and see what I can find

[An65]

This might be Charles?

Red Lion Lane, Farnham, Hants 1851

Richard Williams 48 Cattle Dealer b. Andover
Harriett Williams 49
B. Williams son 20 Cattle Dealer b. Andover
Ann Williams daughter 19 Lace Bonnet Maker b. Andover
Charles Williams son 16 (looks like) sl or fl house b.Andover
Hannah Williams dtr 12 (looks like) sl or fl house b.Andover
John Williams son 11 servant frm b.Andover
William Williams son 6 Scholar b. Andover

This is the only other reference for a Charles Williams b.circa 1830 at Andover. However there are quite a few Charles Williams who only list their place of birth as in the county of Hampshire, so this "evidence" remains circumstantial in my book at the moment.

[annettechivrall]

I was looking at that but it looks like William Williams changed his name to James along the way he was living at Cawday St  with wife Elizabeth ( Gurry ) still trying to work that name out  . This address is on Leonard 1881 birth cert but father is called William

[annettechivrall]

Do you know OVAS will he get in touch also

[An65]

BINGO got them on 1891 census

They are listed as William not Williams on Ancestry.

Caravan, Donovans Yard, Battersea 1891

Charles Williams head 47 Horse Dealer b.Andover Hants
Mary Ann Williams wife 47 licensed Hawker b.Winchester Hants
Phoebe Williams dtr 13 Hanworth Mx
Henry Williams son 21 Mitcham Sy
Samuel Williams son 16 Willesden London
Ada Williams dtr 16 Hanworth Mx
Caroline Williams gdtr 8 Acton

There is a large group of travellers in Caravans at this place.

[An65]

I dont know Ovas, but Im sure they will reply once they come online.

Thats interesting about Leonards birth certificate - hmmm and the name changes - not uncommon in Rom research.

I shall wander off and have another nose....