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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 July 07 10:55 BST (UK) »
I agree Anna

I have followed the family I found backwards & there is no William, so it is just a coincidence that they are living in Hadley & metalworkers!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 July 07 10:56 BST (UK) »
Eldest child of William and Mary Humphreys per 1891/1901 was Richard C Humphreys born abt 1874 Selly Gate or Northfield, Worcs

Birth

Richard Charles Humphreys Dec 1873 King's Norton 6c 453

(May or may not be a clue to where Wm and Mary married)

Modified - Richard is also the eldest child in the family in 1881: RG11/2680 folio 74 p25

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 July 07 11:11 BST (UK) »
IGI has an extracted baptism matching the details of Herbert Thomas Humphreys' father William (birthdate and place match the 1881-1901 census information)

William Humphreys bapt 10 Mar 1850 High Ercall, Shropshire

son of William Humphreys and Elizabeth
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 29 July 07 11:15 BST (UK) »
Marriage (possible):

Mar 1873 Wellington, Shropshire

William HUMPHREYS
Mary GRIFFITHS

on same page 6a 1086

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 July 07 11:21 BST (UK) »
And in 1861, an 11 yr old Mary GRIFFITHS, b Preston Wildmoors, living with parents Richard and Emma in Preston Upon the Wild Moors, Shropshire (birthplace and date match the later Mary HUMPHREYS, mother of Herbert Thomas)

RG9/1900 f155 p1
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 29 July 07 11:24 BST (UK) »
IGI extracted baptism

Mary GRIFFITHS 16 Dec 1849 Preston-Upon-the-Weald Moors, Shropshire

dau of Richard and Emma
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 29 July 07 11:26 BST (UK) »
IGI extracted marriage

Richard GRIFFITHS
Emma PODMORE

15 OCT 1832   Preston-On-The-Weald Moors, Shropshire, England
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 29 July 07 11:28 BST (UK) »
IGI extracted baptism

Richard GRIFFIES (sic)

23 APR 1810   Waters Upton, Shropshire, England

son of Richard GRIFFIES and Martha

Date and place match 1861 census details
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: With good intentions, another mystery !
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 29 July 07 11:32 BST (UK) »
IGI extracted marriage:

Richard GRIFFITHS
Martha FLETCHER

18 SEP 1807   High Ercall, Shropshire, England


Could this be the Richard who "entered his quarter" in 1799?  I have no idea what that means.  In any case this Richard GRIFFITHS seems to be the great-grandfather of Herbert Thomas HUMPHREYS

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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