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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 03:55 BST (UK) »
That's fantastic everyone, thanks heaps!  :D :D

Jane

PS - small world indeed Tom!
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 05:34 BST (UK) »
Jane,

I hope you read the trial!  It's fascinating.

JAP

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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 08:29 BST (UK) »
Yes I had a look - a great find!.  I wonder where he was transported to?  I must check the Australian convict records.

Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 10:24 BST (UK) »
Hi  All,

Yes, Great find ,JAP, I could not Google "john kerr gray" on Google UK, I had to type in "High Court and Circuit Courts of Justiciary in Scotland" before I got the book result. I then searched the following site, http://uk.geocities.com/becky62655@btinternet.com/scot1800.html,

and found that "Tried by the High Court of Justiciary on the 4th of December - John Thompson for shooting at. Reprieved  2. 2.49" So he may have been reprieved without transportation, it does not fully explain. I did a search for John Thomson or John Thompson on Ancestry's convict transportation records and no result.

In the 1851 census at 14 Kilblain Street Greenock,

John Kerr Gray 44 b 1807 Greenock - Town Clerk &
Procurator Osford Sherriff Officer Court
Violet Gray 11 b 1840 Greenock - Scholar at home
Alexina J Gray 5 b 1846 Greenock Scholar at home
Helen Gray 3 b 1848 Greenock at Home
Elizabeth Wilson 50 b 1801 Sister in law
Plus 3 servants


I suspect that John KG's wife died after 1848 and before 1851, his sister-in-law is present.

Tom

Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.


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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 11:06 BST (UK) »
G'day members,

As a former one, I do not recognise the terminology" Junior" Town Clerk.

Perhaps you could put an expanded  .jpg on the thread and I might be able to recognise the context in which the term is used..

EDO
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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 11:59 BST (UK) »
Hi EDO

That's all it says.   ???

The box just gives the name of the child, father's name and occupation, mother's name and dates of birth and baptism.  Other birth entries say David Dick, Blacksmith; Daniel McCaskill, Seaman; or Alexander Anderson, Merchant.

DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hi EDO

That's all it says.   ???


Could it be -
John Kerr GRAY junior,  Town Clerk??

That is, there were 2 John Kerr GRAYs

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 12:21 BST (UK) »
Yes, Great find ,JAP, I could not Google "john kerr gray" on Google UK, I had to type in "High Court and Circuit Courts of Justiciary in Scotland" before I got the book result. I then searched the following site, http://uk.geocities.com/becky62655@btinternet.com/scot1800.html,
and found that "Tried by the High Court of Justiciary on the 4th of December - John Thompson for shooting at. Reprieved  2. 2.49" So he may have been reprieved without transportation, it does not fully explain. I did a search for John Thomson or John Thompson on Ancestry's convict transportation records and no result.  ...  

Tom,

How weird ...
Have you tried Google books?
John (with mental troubles) was sentenced to hang but the sentence lowered to transportation for life (this is in a footnote).  A fairly late date for transportation ...

See the following shrink link (or should that be shrunk link!) for the trial:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01se/

And see:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,134417.0.html
for the 'shrink link' methodology.

JAP

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Re: Can anyone decipher Dad's occupation?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 13:11 BST (UK) »

Could it be -
John Kerr GRAY junior,  Town Clerk??

That is, there were 2 John Kerr GRAYs

I don't think so EDO.  As far as I can tell John Kerr Gray's father was Archibald Gray

Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.