paisley weaving families

[buddie]

Have done that her father,s name is john but it doesn.t give her mothers name. Thanks for your help  ,Isabella

[M.R. Dien]

Pity about the death record ...

In 1861 the family are listed as living at 83 Canal Street Paisley

Isabella is listed as age 42 and the head of the household with her is son James aged 20, son William aged 8 and son Thomas aged 6. Also listed with her is Euphemia mcfarlane aged 6 listed as a niece.

[elbe]

I'm also interested in the Cowden family of Paisley's Abbey parish. I have a Thomas Cowden, weaver who m. Elisabeth Gil(l)christ  on 26 Sept 1818. Their children, all bap. in that parish, were Thos., Wm.; and two called Elisabeth [IF Elisabeth Gilchrist and Elisabeth Gillchrist are one and the same].
Any relation?

[buddie]

My william was married to Isabella Tait who's father was a weaver. I noticed that the Cowdens I found have all the same names. Could be that William and Thomas were brothers. My Great Granda was called Thomas.An address I have was Neilston STreet, now called Neilston Road.

[davieboy]

Elbe,

does your Thomas Cowden have any siblings. I have Margaret Cowden , Mary Cowden , John Cowden , & Janet Cowden born in the late 1700's in Paisley.

Their parents were William Cowden & Catharine Jack

[elbe]

Sorry davieboy, I haven't identified Thomas' siblings or parents yet. Thomas and Elisabeth married on 26 September 1818 if that helps. Your Wm. is a possibility because that name recurrs in later generations.
Identifying the correct family is a challenge 

[runningbear]

hi elbe,

wonder if this is of any help?

1841 census- 64 canal street, paisley

thomas...age 66...silk weaver
elizabeth...age 40
elizabeth...age 20
william...age 18...silk weaver
thomas...age 16...silk weaver
john...age 14
janet...age 12

looks like william married margaret mackay 15/12/1849 paisley

looks like thomas married mary leitch 18/5/1850 paisley

looks like john married margaret fulton 18/8/1853 paisley

looks like janet married walter knox2/10/1857 paisley

1851 census- 28 thread street, paisley

thomas...age 58...weaver
elizabeth...age 50
john...age 25...weaver
janet...age 22...mill worker

1851 census- 40 george street, paisley

william mckay...age 49...weaver
william cowden...son-in-law...age 28...weaver
margaret cowden...age 29
thomas cowden...age 4 months

1851 census- 64 canal street, paisley

thomas...age 27...weaver
mary...age 25
lezzie...age 1 month

1861 census- 75 canal street, paisley

john...age 35...weaver
margaret...age 34
elizabeth...age 7
janet...age 3
margaret...age 1

1861 census- 16 sir michael street, paisley

thomas...age 38...steam loom tenter
mary...age 36
jess...age 10
thomas...age 8
elizabeth...age 3
john...age 1

1861 census- 142 george street, paisley

william...age 40...shawl maker
margaret...age 36
thomas...age 10
william...age 8
john...age 6
hugh...age 4
mary...age 1

1861 census- 11 burnside street, milton, glasgow

walter knox...age 44...blacksmith
janet...age 31
george...age 13...message boy
james...age 1
elizabeth gilchrist...age 64...visitor

1871 census- 80 st james road, glasgow

walter...age 54...drapery agent
janet...age 40
walter...age 8
elizabeth gilchrist...mother-in-law...age 78

1881 census- 80 st james road, glasgow

walter...age 64...draper
janet...age 52
walter...age 19...stationer

1881 census- 109 south wellington st, glasgow

thomas...age 57...foreman
mary...age 55
thomas...age 29...time keeper
elizabeth...age 23...weaver
john...age 21...draughtsman
alexander...age 18...commercial clerk
james...age 14...pupil teacher

1881 census- 75 canal street, paisley

john...age 55...weaver
margaret...age 56
elizabeth...age 27...mill worker
janet...age 24...mill worker
margaret...age 21...mill worker
john...age 18...shoe maker
james...age 11

1881 census- 141 george street, paisley

william...age 60...weaver
margaret...age 57
john...age 26...commerical clerk
hugh...age 23...engineer(turner

1891 census- 141 george street, paisley

william...age 70...retired weaver
margaret...age 66
john...age 36...clerk

1891 census- 22 montgomery street, glasgow

walter knox...age 74...blacksmith
janet...age 62

1891 census- 75 canal street, paisley

john...age 66...weaver
margaret...age 64
elizabeth...age 36...mill worker
margaret...age 31...mill worker
james...age 21...clerk

1891 census- 21 south wellington street, glasgow

mary...age 65
elizabeth...age 33...tailoress

1901 census- 141 george street, paisley

william...age 80...retired weaver

1901 census- 75 canal street, paisley

john...age 76...weaver
margaret...age 74
margaret...age 40...mill worker
james...age 30...clerk


as a wee note, thomas had a son called john born 17/9/1855, must be worth a look see on the sp website.

william also had a son john born 16/3/1855, also worth a look see

Joe

[elbe]

Joe, what a wonderful piece of research you've done! I don't have this experience and knowledge here because it's been Australian government policy since Federation to destroy census records.
First a really ignorant question: in Scotland, were married women listed in the census by their natal names (see Elizabeth GILCHRIST at Janet's place from 1861)? Or maybe some used their husband's surname and others didn't?
Elisabeth, dau. of Thos and Eliz. married William Clingan, a stonemason, in September 1850, so perhaps they are still in Paisley somewhere in 1851.  In 1852 their son, Wm, was born in Glasgow and in November 1853 the three of them emigrated to Australia.
So, perhaps I should start looking for Thomas (the father's) death after the 1851 census and his wife's death after the 1871 census.
The spread of jobs is interesting: Thomas and Mary's family appeared to be the most determined to move away from weaving!
Again, thanks Joe!

[runningbear]

hi pal,

sometimes you find that wife's take up their maiden names when their husbands die, or freely give their maiden names.

1851 census- 134 sauchiehall street, glasgow

william clingan...age 27...mason...born ireland
elizabeth...age 26


Joe