USA births 1867,69,78

[aghadowey]

Let us know what they show as it's been really interesting trying to find the family.

[philipsearching]

The certificates arrived today. Full of excitement and anticipation I opened the envelopes.......

Elizabeth Ann Sandys born 12.05.1843 Westminster was the daughter of Frederick Robert Sandys and Ann Rose.
Elizabeth Ann Cordner died 28.10.1896 - the informant was brother Thomas Cordner.

Unfortunately, neither certificate looks like it belongs to the Elizabeth Aldwell Sandys (Cordner) I am trying to find.  Oh boo, bother and worse words beginning with B.

The search goes on!

Philip

[J.J.]

Sorry, Philip, ..( she couldn't be spotted in 1901, so we thought it might all fit , right?)
perhaps the death in 1909 may be hers then.

Oh, well, something more may come to light yet....Did you order any birth certs as well?   J.J.

[KathMc]

Wow, what a great thread. Some amazing research on here. Hard to keep it all straight.

I have been Ancestry-less for about a month now and feel lost, but did have a look on http://www.italiangen.org/default.htm and found a marriage for Sandys Cordner on Sep 2, 1933 to Mearl V. Googins. Hope this will be of help.

Kath

[philipsearching]

To sum up- the story so far:

William CORDNER born Ireland c1841 (connection with Antrim)
married Elizabeth born England or Ireland c1843 (maiden name probably SANDYS, father Bazee/Basil)
children (according to 1880 USA census) were:
Edwin born c1861 England (not found on FreeBMD)
Auckland b c1863 Ireland (a naughty boy! Married Berenice, children Paula B and Sandys)
Alice Vernon S born c1865 Canada (married W H Trewartha James)
Mary (Marie Massereene Cordner, born c1867 Louisiana USA (Marie Massereene Cordner)
Kathleen born c1869 Michigan or Missouri
Ethel born c1878 Massachussetts

1891 England census has:
Elizabeth Cordner widow born Ireland - Longford
Alice born c1865 Montreal, Canada
Kathleen born c1869 St Louis, USA
Pauline born c1876 Boston USA

1901 England census - Elizabeth CORDNER not found

A birth certificate for Elizabeth SANDYS born 1843 Westminster is the wrong Elizabeth, no others found on FreeBMD

A death certificate for Elizabeth CORDNER 1896 Hampstead - (brother Thomas Cordner as informant - same surname suggests she was spinster) is the wrong Elizabeth

Marriage certificate for John Henry JAMES and Marie Massereene CORDNER 1889 Kensington has Elizabeth Sandys Cordner as witness.  Father William Thompson Cordner is deceased.

Auckland CORDNER's marriage and descendants are traceable.

FreeBMD has a death for Elizabeth CORDNER, Richmond Surrey 1909 aged 65 - certificate just ordered.

FreeBMD does not show a CORDNER/SANDYS marriage in Great Britain. 

My descent is through Mary/Marie CORDNER.  I need to track down birth certificates for any of her children to confirm her maiden name. Can anyone can point me in the right direction to identify a USA certificate and where to buy it?

I need to find a marriage for William CORDNER and Elizabeth to be absolutely certain her name was SANDYS and to find her father's name.


This is a challenge - many thanks to all the Rootschatters who have helped so far.  The search goes on!

Philip

[suffolk*sue]

I am interested in this thread.
Basil Sandys was my 2x.g.grandfather from his second marriage to Catherine Otter in 1855 in Westminster.

Their daughter Sarah born c.1856, my g.grandmother married Herbert Richardson in 1875. They had my grandfather also Herbert, born 1884.

Basil dies in London in 1871, the reg. is under Basil Sands and has his age wrong.The actual cert has had the name amended by the registrar. After this wife Catherine goes awol. I can find no remarriage or death or census entries. Its as if she vanished into thin air. 

It was told to me by another Sandys researcher, that Basils first wife was called Catherine Geraghty. I have no idea when this marriage took place.


Also check out this thread as well.


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,161020.0.html

 

[J.J.]

The Basil above and his previous wife had a son Edwin...born abt 1828 middlesex Eng....( according to the 1841 )

IGI extracted Aug.31 1800   
Basil Sandys
Rathkeale, Limerick, Ire.
Parents of were Edwin & Catherine...

Submission to LDS site (IGI) file:

Edwin Sandys  ( no source )
About 1773   Of, Cloyne Diocese, Cork, Ireland
Marriage:  1798   Cloyne Diocese, Cork
to Catherine Aldwell

wasn't that a name you found with Elizabeth as a middle name?
 

[suffolk*sue]

JJ

Myself and the other Sandys researcher don't know who this Edwin is. Apparently he was not one of Basils children.
Also I have been unable to find Basil on the 1851 census.

[J.J.]

So you have a list of Basil's children, then?
I didn't see relationship category on the census...?

J.J.