1871 Census Lookup Devon - SIMPSON

[Ecneps]

Oh dear, my bad eyesight, hope Nick hasn't started looking for Aitcliffe, both unusual names!  Think he's gone to bed anyway, or at least for a lie down, poor chap, think we've overwhelmed him 

Well done Deb

Barbara

[deb usa]

OOOOO Look at this

1851
Barnstaple , 40 Bodens?? rd

John ROWE head mar 50 potters Lab b Barnstaple
Mary Wife mar 41 b Barnstaple
JOHN son unm 16 LACE TWISTER b Barnstaple
Fanny dau 9 scholar b Notts
George Son unm 4 b Notts
Elizabeth pear? lodger wid 67 pauper (weaver) b Barnstaple

In 1851 when SARAH CLARKE was with her parents in Barnstaple...her father Thomas was a LACE TWISTER !!!!!!!  

deb

[Ecneps]

You're too good Deb, I'm leaving you to it 

It's almost as good as finding your own family isn't it?

Barbara

[deb usa]

hi

yep ...it's great to find people ...I just hope we have the correct people LOL

In 1861:
Mary  ROWE head Wid Lace maker 53 b Barnstaple
George son 13 errand boy b Notts
Margarett Collacott sister widow 57 lace maker b Barnstaple .
Guess where they are living ...PRINCES street , where Sarah Clarke and her family were living in 1851.... no sign of Thomas and Ann Clarke in the street.

anyway , so it looks like Sarah CLARKE may have met JOHN ROWE through her Dad, Thomas as they were in the business of lace twisting ...

will search some more .
BTW , what reg district is Barnstaple? ...as I cannot seem to find these people on IGI

deb

Ps Ithink Margaret , the sister may help us with finding Ann's maiden name

ooops ...just remembered that Ann's dad  ...George Cutcliffe.... I am confusing myself here ....so Margaret and Ann's maiden name was Cutcliffe ...silly me 

[nickgc]

Now I am tired and hungry, but ecstatic about all the help you have both provided in breaking thru this wall.   

If I get Bertha Annie's birth cert and it shows her mother's maiden name as Schmedlap, I don't think I will tell you!

Can we close this, or are you up for a related challenge?  I don't want to take advantage.

In 1851 census at one time I found Annie's father as a  9 year old in Hereford with a 7 y.o. sister Anne.  His father was also "John Simpson" and mother was "Harriett".  That is all I have.  Haven't been able to find a marriage of a John to a Harriett (with 1 or 2 "t"s) or anything else.


This is a P.S. added a half hour later - I'm confused too.  After I parse all of the info you have found I hope to set up a RootsChat website with my complete family tree.  I have avoided doing it online so far for a good reason:  I gave a cousin some preliminary research on my dad's side in the 1990s and all the stuff I have since proved invalid is all over the web.  Either RootsChat or a password protected site only open to people I want on it is my current thinking on how to distribute to family and friends.  I'll let you know.
 
Cheers!

Nick

[deb usa]

Hi Nick

I love searching , so ask away

I am having a hard time finding John Simpson with his parents John and Harriett in 1851 ...do you have the reference ....

will search for marriage !  Was the whole family born in Hereford?

deb

[nickgc]

Deb asked
"BTW , what reg district is Barnstaple? ...as I cannot seem to find these people on IGI "

I just looked this up on GenUKI and Barnstaple is under "Registration Districts in Devon"  with note 'The list below shows the civil registration districts in the county of Devon (Devonshire) between 1st July 1837 and 31st March 1974. The same districts were used to compile the censuses returns for the years 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901.'

Am I missing a concept?   Are there "sub" reg districts within towns or villages or...?

I did a quick search of my PC, but it might have been something I printed out when our local FHC still had access to Ancestry.com.  I'll have to get back to you after I scan my disorganized Simpson paper files.  Sorry!

Nick

[deb usa]

Hi Nick

I have no idea about sub reg districts ...maybe Barbara can answer your question.... sorry 

re: John Simpson b 1842

here is his birth reg..
March  q 1842 Hereford, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
vol 26 pg 126


Anne Simpson:
June Q 1844, Hereford, Herefordshire,. Monmouthshire

I have found a marriage
John Simpson = Harriett COLE
June q 1846 Herefordshire

I know the date is off but perhaps John Simpson was married before ( ie: to the mother of John and Anne and she died) and then he remarried .

still can't find them in 1851 

deb

[nickgc]

Deb,

It is probably a lost cause for now.  I'm really sorry about the bad info.  I learned long ago to not trust transcriptions at all and to only half trust the original records.  If I had remembered the source was British Vital Records Index CD I might not have wasted your time.

I suspect that my best recourse is to get John's Birth cert to see what it says.  John Simpson is such a common name in England that I have put off doing that. 

Nick